If levels in expansion are calculated by exp spent.. (future bug?)

[CyranosCottage]

Harbinger..

If I am one point away from maxing a spec skill, and do harbinger or hand in my 5 tesseras, that counts as xp spent in a skill with out me actually earning it..

Up to a level that the xp wont be a problem, will this quest be a free level and point into a skill? or will this be calculated as well to say that a player didnt actually earn this expirence and there level wont be effect..

sorry if this dosnt sound clear..

I am just saying the 200 mill+ it cost to raise a skill point that I can get from harbinger, does this get added in as xp that will determin what level you are when expansion comes out?

[ufhamlet]

Harbinger, Tessera, Ash Tooth, and Scroll of Dark Rain count as spent XP in the skill and thus, your overall total. The new level displays should match TreeStats' very closely, so if TS shows you as going from 145 to 146 by using a Tessera, so should the post-expansion game system.

[CyranosCottage]

Right, but I mean will these quests be revised so your only getting a skill point and not a level if this is how it is shown on TS and stuff..

Because thats going to be like handing in the 20 Gaerlan swords to some at onces instead of 20 days if your going to level that way..

So I am just asking if it will be changed at all or no plans..

[Palum]

Its abusable right now too... If you have an excess 4 credits (for cooking or something) you can 'abuse' it every 2 weeks. For raising a regular skill (ala mres) it would be every 4 weeks before you could "max'n'dump" and retrain the skill.

Yea its exploitable but... 350m every month pales in comparison to what macros are doing heh.

[ufhamlet]

Get your jargon right. You're not "abusing" anything and it's not an "exploit". The devs are very aware of the dynamic and have never said a bad thing about it. The XP earned from those quests is just being redistributed like any other earned XP. There are better things to get your panties in a wad about.

[Paraduck]

and I believe that is being nerfed on Wednesday. We'll have to see how the new quests play out.

[ufhamlet]

Para, I just looked through the LttP and teaser twice each and found no reason to think that the "sellback trick" would be nerfed. Only the Ash Teeth (and we know a 25% and 30% reward are coming) and the Iasparailaun seem to be getting the hate. You have any evidence or is this just a hunch?

[Paraduck]

I thought that's what Palum was talking about.

[ufhamlet]

if the new dynamic works like the Ash Teeth did, you can now turn in a 10%, 25%, and 30% reward, geting 2/3 of a point every week. What I thought you said was being nerfed was the skill sellback dynamic. If that gets nerfed with zero warning, there are going to be a LOT of people with stashed, uncarved sings that aren't going to be pleased.

[Palum]

Turbine did not intend to give people 350m every month from completing harbringer- hence the exploit.

You could expect to get slightly less each month from raising other skills close to max so its more an oversight then plain bug but... its still not intended.

Unfortunately I don't wear panties and my boxers feel just fine thanks.

[Paraduck]

The Harbinger is a 3 month timer, or am I missing something?

[ufhamlet]

You're dead on, Para.

"Turbine did not intend to give people 350m every month from completing harbringer- hence the exploit."

I'd love to see some evidence for that, Palum.

[CyranosCottage]

I don't know timer on teeth thing so I am not going to comment on that, but harbinger is 3 months..

I just wanted to address this issue because I thought about it after the acpl, knowing my harbinger timer is almost up and they said level will be based on calculated xp in skills and I sat down and said, wow, if I max this skill and according to acstats, I will be getting more xp into the skill than it is to level...

This is why I was hopeing that they wouldn't calculate the xp in skills and have everyone at 126+ start at 126 and work to earn the levels so no one is far ahead in the race to hit the new cap..

But hopefully like mentioned, this issue will be addressed on how xp/points from harbinger will be done, if any change, or if its not truely any exploit and just really crafty thinking to use that skill point to your advantage..