*Suggestion* For the patron/vassal system.

[Black-Wolf]

I'm not very good at all this, but I just thought I should suggest something which might be a good idea. Please leave feedback on your thoughts. Ok here we go,

Player 1 is level 10.

and Player 2 is level 20.

Now as your all aware of the Patron/Vassal system at the moment, Player 1 can swear to Player 2 and generate pass-up XP. Where as Player 2 cannot swear to Player 1 because of level differences.

What if Player 2 could swear to Player 1 but the so long as Player 2 is an higher level then Player 1 he won't pass-up XP.

[Ghetteran]

I like this idea :)
any solution where we at a higher level could swear to a lower level woud be great.
A Monarch should be about leadership of the person behind the character, not about how bloody high a level they can be, right?

[Black-Wolf]

Well in my own opinion "Experience" can fall into alot more then one category.

I like to roleplay and quest, I hunt, but not that much. Why should "Experience" in the killing sense make me less "Experience" in being a patron?

As far as I'm aware, Vassals choose their patrons.. and Vassals take penalties for releasing themselves.

[Hungwell]

I think this has a good potential.

Hopefully a dev will look at it. I fear that the level cap removal will fubar allegiances especially in the case of a monarch change.

[Winter]

If turbine would get crafters some love so they can advance without killing, Id be all for a system like AC2. (anyone can swear to anyone, but they only get a certain % of their level before it 'caps'

[Synnah]

three thoughts:

#1 -

make it possible for chars 126 or higher (or some level above 126) able to have any level char sworn to them...

#2 -

let it be allowed to have a character swear to another as long as they're within (10)% of each other EXP wise..

#3 -
add a flag to the original deal so that once the top character has passed the other in exp, they can pass up again.

[Black-Wolf]

Originally posted by Synnah
#1 -

make it possible for chars 126 or higher (or some level above 126) able to have any level char sworn to them...

But this comes back to my second posts point about me and who I am,

I roleplay and quest, I hunt, but not that much anymore. Why should "Experience" in the killing sense make me less "Experience" in being a patron?

I've played this game since Febuary 2000, and I know tons about the game but I'm not level 126. Currently I'm 107, but what if someone reaches 126 in a very short period playing for a 4 months.

His time and dedication to hunting I aplaud, but his basic knowledge of the world will be inferior to someone who has played alot longer.

Experience shouldn't just be about hunting. No I'm not saying reading books should develop levels, I'm saying people should be able to swear to anyone they like reguardless what level they've become from hunting.

[Synnah]

by all means, that's fine :) I give you unending credit and respect for knowing the game and being any level than not knowing any of the game and being any level.

This place is a GREAT place for brainstorming... and it's our collective opinion (as a whole) that leads to a better Dereth!

so knock #1 out of there, there are still other options :)

let more people voice their opinions and find a common, semi-happy ground. that's my ultimate goal anyway :)

[Fiction_LC]

its a good idea. But the level 20 could pass up xp it would be like .0000000000000000000000000001% or something low like that some one had something posted like this before and it sounded great.

[Black-Wolf]

Originally posted by Fiction_LC
its a good idea. But the level 20 could pass up xp it would be like .0000000000000000000000000001% or something low like that some one had something posted like this before and it sounded great.

I'm not sure, but if they can wouldn't it just be better to set it as 0 xp pass-up?

I hope a dev responds. :)

[Hamfast]

I swore my main (at level 1) to my Trades Mule (Level 5, spec Leadership) to help level my tradesmule (Who could not really hunt for himself)...

By your system, soon after leaving the training academy, my tradesmule would get no benifit from all the work my Main is doing to level...