Give us your feedback on the November teaser!

[Ibn]

You can see all four parts -- when they are live -- as well as the teaser pics here (http://ac.turbinegames.com/index.php?page_id=309).

[Calladyn]

LOL is that last pic on part one a mirror? should be a fun dungeon...

[Zaerik-MT]

Wow, screenshots look great, cant wait!

[Ibn]

LOL is that last pic on part one a mirror? should be a fun dungeon...

Heh... if it were a mirror, both their waving hands would be on the same side. :)

[PartyVT]

Heh... if it were a mirror, both their waving hands would be on the same side. :)

Its a mirrored mirror :D

[Frank The Knife]

Cool screens. Will we se one of the teasers as a movie? :)

[Reska]

Ooooh...Ithaenc may be getting an upgrade!

[Ibn]

Cool screens. Will we se one of the teasers as a movie? :)

Well... not one of the four stories.

Note that I didn't say "no".

[Zaerik-MT]

Ooooh...Ithaenc may be getting an upgrade!

Maybe, but then again look at the top of the october patch page.
http://ac.turbinegames.com/index.php?page_id=275

[Reska]

Doesn't mean much....

I know it's the Vesayans just based on waterfall and the background vegetation. Now, it may not be Ithaenc, but it MAY be near it.

[GhettoPhabulas]

Its the burun island off the coast of vesayen...

[Scenario]

What Burun Island off the coast of the Vesayens?

[Reska]

Look! It's Scenario!


Gimme a squid mask!

[Phoenix Warrior]

3rd EDIT: I just looked at the post and thought, "This might be obvious though..." Well if it is sorry, I just noticed it.

Is it just me or does the picture in the teaser shots for this patch (On Bended Knee) look like it's a picture of Nuhmudira? And the new temple that looks like Ithenac has a Sclavus in a doorway, and Nuhmudira uses Sclavus as guards n' stuff doesn't she? Also, in the picture with the three statues, the wall and floor texture match the Ithenac look so...maybe it's Nuhmudiras temple/citadel, that has a picture of her in it for some reason, that is being guarded by Sclavus.

EDIT:Also, in the picture (of Nuhmudira I think), in the right top corner there is part of the Ithenac architecture drawn in. So...strengthens my point on the Sclavus, Nuhmudira, and the new Ithenac looking thing connection.

EDIT (again ;) ) There is Sclavus standing in the right bottom corner near the main entrance, and one at the left entrance in the doorway at the new Ithenac-looking place.)

(Is it Scalvus or Sclavus? I have always used Scalvus... :rolleyes: )

[Uzi-El]

I doubt it's Nuhmie. All her magic is based on Falatacot blood rites. The Falatacot created the Sclavuseseseses, so they serve her as well. Ithaenc was originally a Falatacot temple (or at least run by Falatacot descendants), and the temple in the shots looks like a similar design, so it's expected that it would have Falatacot architecture/decorations as well.

As for the woman in the image, it's probably the main Matron, the leader of the "dark sisters".

[Trieze]

Sweetness..

Warcry's pic looks like someone has a Gaerlan and a Ancient Olthoi Queen pack doll, is this the 5th aniverssary suprise?

If so, can't wait for my ancient queen pack doll :)

[Phoenix Warrior]

Heh I posted the same thing on our alleg. web site. Yup, looks like Ancient Olthoi Queen and Gaerlan dolls, wonder how we will get them and if there are more.

[bonejacker]

Yeah Ghetto.

Where is that island?

[Silifi Of Death]

What Burun Island off the coast of the Vesayens?

Yeah, we found your island south of the Vesayens... We also found the expansion island northeast of ML.

Not going to say the island is burun though.

The new cathedral probably isn't Ithaenec, it's a new cathedral with similar art. Notice it looks different.

[Scenario]

Oh, I knew you guys were aware of the locations of some new islands. I was just wondering what led to the assumption the Vesayen one was Burun related :)

[GhettoPhabulas]

Sorry had them mixed up. Thats the falatacot temple island, and the one off the west dires is the burun temple.

[Someguy1]

Well the burun tend to show up in Falatacot temples...

[DadgaSilverhand]

yeah, i doubt it is Nuhmie, she dont have elven "pointed ears".

that art (painting) look so very "Micheal Moorcork's Elric" style, Bravo! and i would love to order a few posters and notebook side for album or photobook.

Best teaser i had seen in months, and i would like to see another "Comic book" style again, Please, do again, i do like that Oswald in shadow during Elsya's near fatal assassination.


and again, another favor, would also like to get that IG painting for housing. look awesome with beside lugian's paintings.

[Fearless_One]

Yeah, but.. I have this odd feeling we'll be seeing the real force behind this Burun invasion and I dont think this force is Burun.

At least I hope so. :)

[AriCat]

Awesome screenshots... I can't wait! :)

[Sek_the_Wise]

I think I have the Burun there figured out Im more then likely wrong tho.

The Mucor they be eating leachs magic out of things but not just magic but Im going to guess knowlege too.

Undead being nothing but walking fertilizer Im sure the mucor started growing on one or some of them and started a whole twisted trasformation in the burun who ate it , to make them know what the undead were up to what they were and they werent gods.



But either way I still say the portals there are the Star Gate especially with the burun "an alian race tricked to being an army for people pretending to be gods" are now fighting against "false gods" Who by the way made the Sclavus ...*cough* Serpent guards...

On patch day can I please have a Packdoll MacGyver? Please?


Anyway the teaser is intresting and the pics look great. I thought of a mirror cloning thing kind of room not a true mirror in sight but a clone that does the same as you do while you move around.

[el_slacko]

That is probably a picture of one of the matrons, mabey one of the ones we've fought already in the blackmire temple. The 2 ithanec clones are prolly on another vesayen island, or mabey even in another world, burun world, camp they set up there? Prolly not, but I need a vacation fron dereth =p

Ya Sek, im seing the whole stargate thing in the burun portals too, or mabey its a coincidincke.

[DadgaSilverhand]

back again, after i checked all other Ac sites, wow.

I saw new leather plate armor, saw "Falicost Armor" being wearing, wondered why in Frore tunnel dungeon?

few pack dolls, and large olthoi statue on pedistal, hmmm.


so, cant wait to see Thur part #2 teaser, and #3 teaser on friday, and last one on sat #4 teaser, wow, alot to tease, enough teasings, look too good.

regarding the "painting", can we get that in Poster (RL)?
please. i would buy one and throw in extra 5 bucks for autograph(s) from turbine team. nice christmas gift.

[Chrono]

regarding the "painting", can we get that in Poster (RL)?
please. i would buy one and throw in extra 5 bucks for autograph(s) from turbine team. nice christmas gift.

I concur, I would love one irl.

AS for the painting itself, I think it may be a bit premature to assume it's even female (it doesn't look female to me, but neither did Elysa in the comic). While I agree that it is most likely a matron... what if it was *cold chills* Geraine?

[Sake]

I'm going to be very disapointed if I log in after the patch and don't find a funky purple ring spell casting plushie martine doll in my inventory...

...granted I'll be disapointed anyway to find that my weeping bow has been changed for the 5th, 6th, 7th? time...

[Insane Iggy]

This teaser is Interesting, Looking forward to the patch

[Zenra_Icewind]

Blah!

I'll give better feedback after Friday...or Saterday. Goddess knows I won't be able to sleep because of my anxiety of my approaching new pre-order on the 9th.

[LugianWarlord]

Any chance of revisiting the Guruk models so they don't look so... um... bad? The polygon detail is severly lacking compared to other recent monster additions to AC - especially the legs... baby elephant legs only look good on baby elephants...

[Ashbringer]

LOL... baby elephants...

Well I personally think the the Teaser Images look just awesome and looking forward to the rest of the Teaser texts over the next few days.

As far as the exclusives I have seen.... the only one I really care to comment on.... I believe it was one of Maggie's... an Olthoi on a pedestal... Does that look a lot like the Mosswart statue that gives free Item spells.... or is that just me? Perhaps Im just crazy:) Wouldn't be a first...

[Jin Saotome]

I see blue energy swirling around the Noble Rapier, and it looks like Robin Hood vs Olthoi!!

[Chrono]

I see blue energy swirling around the Noble Rapier, and it looks like Robin Hood vs Olthoi!!

Robin Hood versus Olthoi on SOUTHERN ML!?

[boneyard]

lots of interesting screen shots, much stuff to guess about and see what we are going to get :)

[Vlad Morbius]

This is the kind of excitement that has been missing for far too long IMO :D

[Litar]

It would be more suitable to hang a Weeping Bow on a cottage wall and take a teaser pic of that. :mad:

[Zaerik-MT]

Whats the name of that person's tomb in the ithenic cathedral (one that turns pks white) thought maybe that might be the person in the photo. :confused:

[Marius of FF]

Redone Olthoi Queen Quest with an Olthoi Pedistal (similar to the Mossy one.... perhaps a different school of magic? Critter maybe?)





brar?

[Astral_Dominae]

It would be more suitable to hang a Weeping Bow on a cottage wall and take a teaser pic of that. :mad:


I think they look great (http://ac.mystics.gamigo.de/?module=Screenshots&pictureid=00000008288&template=auto) :)

[Vlad Morbius]

I want this suit!!!!!!!!!!!!! http://ac.mystics.gamigo.de/
I sure hope it's functional :D

[Sake]

I want this suit!!!!!!!!!!!!! http://ac.mystics.gamigo.de/
I sure hope it's functional :D

please by dyable and not have a melee def req on it, please by dyable and not have a melee def req on it, please by dyable and not have a melee def req on it, please by dyable and not have a melee def req on it, please by dyable and not have a melee def req on it, please by dyable and not have a melee def req on it, please by dyable and not have a melee def req on it, please by dyable and not have a melee def req on it...

[Vlad Morbius]

Please be a loot item, and not a quest item :p

[the_arrdvark]

So, looks like Nuhumidra finally returns, probably with olthoi under her control since she merged her mind with the queen.
hmmmmm . . .

[Reska]

Robin Hood versus Olthoi on SOUTHERN ML!?


That's not southern ML. That's still the ML Plateau, just on the southwesternmost edge.

[HelpComputer]

If Guises return this patch, will Eye Patches make a return too?

thanks.

[Romen]

So, looks like Nuhumidra finally returns, probably with olthoi under her control since she merged her mind with the queen.
hmmmmm . . .
I forgot about that event!

Turbine should add some random landmass, which is partly viewable from the coast somewhere, then after a lot of players get all excited over it.. DELETE IT! MUAHHAHAHHAHAHHA

:cool:

[Scenario]

That's not southern ML. That's still the ML Plateau, just on the southwesternmost edge.
Actually, Chrono is right. I took that shot just off the road east of Redspire :)

[Gouru]

ITS THURSDAY!!!! :)

I've been checking back all day. :D

Weren't we supposed to get an update today? :confused:

I'm gonna go cry now. :(

[kriki]

It just gets curiouser and curiouser.....

Kriket
Frostfell

[Someguy1]

Looks like Torgluuk is going to be a good guy or something. In the future (AC2 that is) there's no sign of a friendly faction of burun though.

[Zonomar Xisle]

I apreciate the lore, it adds depth to each patch in a way.

Could something besides black text on a white background be used?

It gets hard on the eyes after a while, I usually highlight the text to make reading it a bit easier.

Perhaps a light grey background instead or white - the grey used on vnboards for example?

Thanks

[Mestivious]

I have no knowledge of the AC2.. but I just heard that Asheron is dead in AC2. Is this the end of Asheron?

[Uzi-El]

No. He doesn't bite it for at least another hundred years or so.

[Zaerik-MT]

Ireth Lassel
Never heard of this...is it new?

[Uzi-El]

Never heard of this...is it new?
That's the Yalaini name for Dereth :p

[Renegade Knight]

I think I have the Burun there figured out Im more then likely wrong tho.

The Mucor they be eating leachs magic out of things but not just magic but Im going to guess knowlege too.

Undead being nothing but walking fertilizer Im sure the mucor started growing on one or some of them and started a whole twisted trasformation in the burun who ate it , to make them know what the undead were up to what they were and they werent gods.



But either way I still say the portals there are the Star Gate especially with the burun "an alian race tricked to being an army for people pretending to be gods" are now fighting against "false gods" Who by the way made the Sclavus ...*cough* Serpent guards...

On patch day can I please have a Packdoll MacGyver? Please?


Anyway the teaser is intresting and the pics look great. I thought of a mirror cloning thing kind of room not a true mirror in sight but a clone that does the same as you do while you move around.

Next we'll see Jaffa running through Rithwic and Anubis and his ship floating over the sky of Cragstone! OOO and maybe Thor will come...or Baal...or maybe we'll see dev controlled npc's of SG1 running around killing Burun :eek:

[_b0o]

I'm surprised no one mentions there is what looks like a PIERCE DAMAGE MACE in the pic of the yellow armor :) looks like a shiney Ursuin Fang Mace...


now if mace gets pierce damage wheres my l33t bludgeon sword o doom? =P

[Winter]

If the LTTP were as heavy in PVM balance fixes as the teaser is in lore, Id be resubing right now. I still enjoy the storyline though, and this particular teaser is top notch.

[Widsith]

Interesting that Asheron was once called Lightbringer. Hope he wasn't called Morning Star at some point too.

[kalila]

I'm surprised no one mentions there is what looks like a PIERCE DAMAGE MACE in the pic of the yellow armor :) looks like a shiney Ursuin Fang Mace...


now if mace gets pierce damage wheres my l33t bludgeon sword o doom? =P

looks like the Nobel war axe to me...

[Vlad Morbius]

I think it just may be whatevr the Burun was holding, and the image got intertwined ;)

[Marius of FF]

Pssssstttt.... boo....



Mace has had pierce damage a few years now.



Spiked Clubs :D



Their damage is lower then normal maces... and good ones are rare as hell :mad:

[KsBabe]

I truly enjoyed reading the first and second parts of the November teaser and I am looking forward to reading the next two. I am also wondering if that picture of the person with pointed ears isnt Asheron himself because he mentions having pointed ears in the Thursday teaser, maybe from the days when he was called the lightbringer?
As for the weapon in the picture, I believe it is an axe also, looks alot like a pick axe so maybe I can get it for my axer so she can finally do pierce damage,,lol
I so look forward to the gifts we get on patch day, but please Turbine tell me if there is a chance that I may get a pack cow on one of my four active accounts on FF? lol

[Vlad Morbius]

That was a very entertaining read indeed! Keep it coming guys! :D

[Barnacles]

A teaser that really teases!! Awesome looking art work. I wish I was more of a lore master so that I could make a guess about the "pale one" from the teaser pics!! You guys are doing awesome things and I can't wait to see
AC brought back into the front of the MMORG world with a big marketing campaign :cool:

[Phoenix Warrior]

Weapon in Mystics Teaser shot is the Noble War Maul. I think noble weapons are getting Burun Slayer added to them.

[Swift-Jake]

Ibn, thank you soooooooooooo much! Thank the whole Dev Team, for a patch that I think will be unbelievably cool.

You take a look at the teaser pics, and the teaser story, and OMG this looks like that best patch yet! New "pack dolls" (I hope!), possibly new Knorr stuff, and most importantly, a slight chance at a glimpse of Nuhmudira. When she fell off the Earth for a year I was disheartened and hoped to see her return. I am glad Elysa has made the decision to request her help, and we can all see her again.

My only question is:
Will Nuhmudira and Martine be part of the pack dolls?? *pray*

[kriki]

My question is - in the old quest you either damn, or forgive - if a quest, or something is involved with Numhrida (wow, butchered that spelling) will she talk to or help a person who chose to damn her?

Could be interesting - one of those decisions that we maybe didn't take too much time to consider when we did the quest, may now come to bite us....

And they did just fix the quest a couple of months back....

Kriket
Frostfell

[Trieze]

Im intrested in this to IBN. Maybe, without giving to much away, you could comment on it. If you damned Nummie in the quest where you could either get the +15 magic D or the +30 health necklaces, will you be unable to do her new quest?

[Orion]

Choices sometimes have consequences.

[Trieze]

Choices sometimes have consequences.

looks like i won't get to enjoy a upgraded noble weapon then..

[_b0o]

Choices sometimes have consequences.

what if u did the work-around and did both quests? lol

[Orion]

I didn't say that you couldn't do it, did I Trieze? I just said that there might be some consequences.

[Trieze]

heh i know orion, i just like to be the devils advocate once in a while :p

[Swift-Jake]

Yes!!!!!!! Finally something good for my mage who decided to save Nuhmmy :D

[Xen]

Orion,

Does it mean she will also remember what to do with those Attuned letters she wrote during her inprisonment? The ones that one of my chars was caring for *awhile* now? Hmm.

[Silifi Of Death]

Can someone explain to me why I can't see Mystic's Screenshots? It's not showing up on my screen :( :mad: :mad: :( :mad:

[Merubin]

Choices sometimes have consequences.Hopefully you guys also counted only choosing to assist Nuhmudira with the Harbinger and not Vincadi too. It's been pretty annoying seeing mostly Virindi side runs whenever my timer is up :)

Silifi: Send a private message to Astral Dominae (I think that's it), he might be able to help you with that.

[Blushtusker]

Do we have Picture from all this Persons they are involved in this Stories and can we see them ? Like high queen Elysha! :rolleyes:

[Zenra_Icewind]

I think more interaction from live team plot characters would make patches more interesting. It's difficult to be emerced into plot when all our main characters (IE Asheron, Elysa) are nothing more than boring NPCs.

[Surprentis]

I'm surprised no one mentions there is what looks like a PIERCE DAMAGE MACE in the pic of the yellow armor :) looks like a shiney Ursuin Fang Mace...


now if mace gets pierce damage wheres my l33t bludgeon sword o doom? =P



for seriouss! :mad:

[Brokin]

I have been wondering for a LONG time now how sword could get a bludgeon weapon that made sense....

It's really cool how axe has a pierce weapon that is very decent but not as good as it's available damage types. And Mace has an equally cool slashing weapon, completing it's 7 damage types as well. Staff even got a decent slashing weapon (updated crop from ML) a while back.

But I just thought of something for a bludgeon sword.

Any of you guys ever play that recent Xbox game called Ninja Gaiden? Totally kickass game btw... but one of the swords you get early on is a wooden training sword. It can't do slashing attacks, but you can have a smithy upgrade it like 6 or 7 times. It doesn't seem to improve until the last upgrade, making it an uber sword (still wooden, but with an ethireal lightness)

That would be cool! A wooded training sword! You know, like the samurai use? It actually MAKES SENSE that it would do bludgeon damage. It would be neet if it started out as a 250 wield weapon that could be upgraded to 300, 350 and 380+ wield versions :) Damage wouldn't be as good as the current swords available through tinkering, but decent damage with Biting Strike and Crushing Blow would be cool. Having the higher versions look cooler would be a nice touch too!

[Uzi-El]

how sword could get a bludgeon weapon that made sense....

Ever watch "Rurouni Kenshin"? ;)

[Scenario]

It had a sharp side!

[KsBabe]

Hey Scenario, are there a chance I may get a pack cow as a gift on patch day? lol

[Brokin]

Hey Scenario!

sharp side? on a training sword?

I have held these myself and seen them wielded in real life. They are smooth and polished. Samurai in China/Japan started using them centuries ago for duels since they often lead to broken bones instead of someone always dieing.

A well polished training sword can break bones in the hands of a samurai. The "edge" of the wooden sword is rounded and smooth, not sharp!

[Deven-Kenyon]

What I’d love to see was a dev controlled event like the asheron/martin/gman ones. The second part of the teaser would have worked great for that

Can we expect these types of events anymore? I missed the old ones (I’ve only gotten to experience those via movies from the vault site), and when the ancient olthoi queen event happened, I had left ac :/ So it’d be nice to catch a live event if just once

[Scenario]

Hey Scenario!

sharp side? on a training sword?

I have held these myself and seen them wielded in real life. They are smooth and polished. Samurai in China/Japan started using them centuries ago for duels since they often lead to broken bones instead of someone always dieing.

A well polished training sword can break bones in the hands of a samurai. The "edge" of the wooden sword is rounded and smooth, not sharp!

I was talking about the reverse blade sword :)

[Marius of FF]

Perhaps the Smiths of Dereth have not invented swords made for Smashing?




The land of Dereth is full of Wonders Indeed!

[MVOFJR]

A comment made in part 4 doesnt seem to add up from what I understand.

Reeshan says "The Moar here are much weaker."

From what I have always understood the Moarsmen have always been one of the native species to Dereth. I do not see how they could have gotten to the Burun homeworld without the Burun having an open door to come to Dereth LONG ago.

[Ashbringer]

The Burun did have an open door to Dereth long ago.... I forget where it was that confirmed it... Rollout or Teaser from last month I think...

But that is why they come searching for the Pale Ones... the False Gods.... Asheron... Empyreans. From my understanding Empyreans made the Burun some sort of slave race to some extent... Very Stargate indeed.

[Zaerik-MT]

I was talking about the reverse blade sword
Sakabato :p

[Daz'ar Tae]

LOVE The teasers! Can't wait for the patch! Yipeee! :D

[eolorian]

"Yes. My King... the dead... the dead do not die on this world." Mgrauleshk bowed his head.

Ok this whole idea here. Would I be wrong here in thinking that this just established the ability to bring anyone back including Baal?

[faefrost]

Hmmm, interesting. Some nice looking pic's. I can't shake the feeling that I have seen that greenish colored temple like area somewhere before. Possibly one of the vaults in AC2?

[Brokin]

I was talking about the reverse blade sword :)

Yeah, I realized that after I did a google on the Anime that was mentioned. I've seen commercials for it on Cartoon Network like a year or two ago... not sure if they still run it but looks very interesting. I'm quite the Anime fan...

current obsession = Inuyasha :)

I don't play much sword, but a wooded training sword that does bludge damage would be nifty.

[Merubin]

From what I have always understood the Moarsmen have always been one of the native species to Dereth. I do not see how they could have gotten to the Burun homeworld without the Burun having an open door to come to Dereth LONG ago.Read the lore from the Sunken Mere & "Hidden Entrance" quests :) It'll explain a bit more.

[Scenario]

From what I have always understood the Moarsmen have always been one of the native species to Dereth. I do not see how they could have gotten to the Burun homeworld without the Burun having an open door to come to Dereth LONG ago.

The lore available on the Moarsmen has been sparse until this story arc.

What was previously available was based on the suppositions of scholars that may not neccessarily have been entirely accurate.

[faefrost]

A comment made in part 4 doesnt seem to add up from what I understand.

Reeshan says "The Moar here are much weaker."

From what I have always understood the Moarsmen have always been one of the native species to Dereth. I do not see how they could have gotten to the Burun homeworld without the Burun having an open door to come to Dereth LONG ago.

The only confirmed "native" species or creatures on Dereth are the Gromnies, the Golems and the Undead. Possibly Streth and Armadillo's as well?

Everything else is from somewhere else through the portals.

[Skinnerc]

Although there are more native species than either you or i have spoken on, Faefrost, however, The Golems are not natural to Auberean , indeed, they were created by the Empyrean people through a form of magic, to be intellegent, and physically powerful, yet thoughtless workforce. The same goes for the undead, as i believe Geraine and the Falatacot people gave the blood magic to create undead to the Dericostian society, and that those who were able to use such magic either converted themselves, or others. The majority of this magic is now lost. One could argue that these are natural beings, because the means of their creation was ever present, however, they were not an original species on Auberean. The Shreth, although their origins hazy, are not natives, and are recorded to have started appearing on Auberean at a certain date, I also believe they are thought to have come from a land much like themselves, chaotice and violent. The Armoredillo are not recorded as an original species, however, one cannot be sure that they were not, as no record of their arrival, nor their origins is documented. The Gromnie are actually a lesser variant of the true original species, the Gromnatross, which are similar to dragons as we know from fantasy literature, however, the last Gromnatross left I believe during the War of the Shadows, because of the chaos, however, this may have occured during the Olthoi Invasion, caused by Asheron's portal magic. one brings into question whether the races of more human resemblance are native, and i believe the Empyrean cultures, including the Falatacot, Fiazhat, Dericost, Yalaini, and other forces were not native, however, the records are very hazy.

I have picked up all of this by my study of Asheron's Call history, and i continue to be interested in the entire storyline, even from before the game, although i do love the games current plots (ie plots from Beta-Current) however, i also love the history that is unwritten, especially when dealing with the magics and other inner workings of society. this is where i beg the devs to write more on this, and go deeper into what the other schools of magic might be etc. more more more about the history. also, could someone (dev) tell me if im right about my creatures, and fill in the blanks a lil? so questions: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: 1. more lore with history and magic etc. 2. are my creatures correct 3. what other creatures are native :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused:

[Magik Brute of]

"Yes. My King... the dead... the dead do not die on this world." Mgrauleshk bowed his head.

Ok this whole idea here. Would I be wrong here in thinking that this just established the ability to bring anyone back including Baal?


Uh...Lifestones.....When we Die we re-appear at the lifestone with Vite and missing some items.

[boneyard]

yeah that is a reference to us aluvians, sho and gharu not really dieing but coming back at the lifestone.

i really loved this last teaser, i didnt understood the part about the "another small thing" right away. but reading it again it noticed it was about us :) Reeshan getting annoyed by us trying to hurt him with our little metal sticks :) so he throws us outside again, very nicely done.

[Scenario]

There are two parts of the entire teaser set that I found very amusing.

In the first teaser, when Reeshan informed his fellow Kukuur that the path to Auberean had opened. The responses from the Kukuur reminded me of the responses you see what you get a global, heh.

Second was the final teaser. The manner in which Reeshan reacts to the Isparians coming back to attack him over and over again. Just a great bit right there!

[Protes]

Great job on the teasers!
I especially liked Part Two with Torgluuk going to Knorr and confronting Asheron. From last month's Rollout Article I was expecting Torgluuk taking the last remnants of the Ruuk clutch with him to Knorr to defeat Asheron.
It was also surprising to see Asheron was "Eye for all worlds" in Tkrowerk's prophecy to Torgluuk (The Shattered Coil). However the last sentence The Eye of the Sleeping One, the sun, the Light. wasn't in The Shattered Coil, I imagine this text is just Torgluuk thinking.
I'm looking forward to seeing the identity of The Sleeping One.

It looks like On Bended Knee will be great patch.

[FmrSentFlatfoot]

I think with all this new gibberish and gobbledegook nonsense that bears zero relation to how this game started, and has veered off into never never land, they should call it "On Bended Mind".

All boiled down... what does it all mean to the players? Nothing at all. It's just another variation of some of the same old monsters on a continuous spawn like everything else has always ever been since day one, where we kill, kill, kill... and maybe get some new wall hanging quest item that no one can effectively use.

Enjoy!

Asheron's Call resembles Stargate? ROFL...

On Bended Mind, indeed.

[Orion]

Thanks, Protes.

The last line in teaser two was indeed little Torgluuk thinking to himself.

Remember though, not every question gets answered. If we did that there would be too little to discover. :-)

[Vlad Morbius]

I foresee the return of the big 2 :D

[Zaerik-MT]

I think with all this new gibberish and gobbledegook nonsense that bears zero relation to how this game started, and has veered off into never never land, they should call it "On Bended Mind".

So you're saying we should just play the first patch of AC over and over again so that the story doesn't move forward? Hmmm, I'll pass on that one.

[Uzi-El]

The last line in teaser two was indeed little Torgluuk thinking to himself.

Ya know, I've heard of guys metaphorically thinking with that part of their bodies, but I had no idea Burun could literally do that...

:D

[FmrSentFlatfoot]

So you're saying we should just play the first patch of AC over and over again so that the story doesn't move forward?

Nope, that's what you're saying.

[Silifi Of Death]

I think with all this new gibberish and gobbledegook nonsense that bears zero relation to how this game started, and has veered off into never never land, they should call it "On Bended Mind".

All boiled down... what does it all mean to the players? Nothing at all. It's just another variation of some of the same old monsters on a continuous spawn like everything else has always ever been since day one, where we kill, kill, kill... and maybe get some new wall hanging quest item that no one can effectively use.

Enjoy!

Asheron's Call resembles Stargate? ROFL...

On Bended Mind, indeed.

Falatacot were around since the beginning of AC. They built the Ithaenac, controlled the Scalvus, and were the ones responsible for creating the Undead. That's all during the Bael arc.

The Burun have a connection to the original story through a couple theories pertaining to Geraine being the "Sleeping One". And Geraine I believe was mentioned during the shadow abductions.

Storyline not connected to original? I'd say it's the most connected storyline we've ever had.

Not to mention the most extended lore since Gaerlan and Martine.

[FmrSentFlatfoot]

Falatacot were around since the beginning of AC. They built the Ithaenac, controlled the Scalvus, and were the ones responsible for creating the Undead. That's all during the Bael arc.

The Burun have a connection to the original story through a couple theories pertaining to Geraine being the "Sleeping One". And Geraine I believe was mentioned during the shadow abductions.

Storyline not connected to original? I'd say it's the most connected storyline we've ever had.

Not to mention the most extended lore since Gaerlan and Martine.

...and this matters to who? How does it enrich the purpose for this game? What does it do for enlightenment and why? What is your reason for playing AC... to follow lore that means nothing to the advancement of your character, that will be gone once AC drops into gaming history where all it will be remembered for is "Yeah, AC was a cool game, huh?".

That's exactly all it is now and is destined to become. So the lore means nothing because you're not going to even mention the lore as you kill the monsters while doing the quests, or the ones you kill on the way to doing the quests, or the ones you kill for the sake of killing. You'll be interested in advancing your character(s) to the next level, and that's where it began and will end. All the inbetween is just the rantings of an over-active imagination, just like we find in all or most fantasy movies that we go watch in the theatre, and once we've seen it, never think about it again.

So when do you plan to change "courses" to the proper word "coruscates" that's been in your signature for a year now? heh That alone would show more credence than any game lore.

If the Falatacot were around since the start of AC, don't you think Advocates would've known about them enough to impart some of this lore to new travellers entering the game? Funny, I don't ever recall being told about them during my advocate training during Beta? Imagine that. Also, if they built the Ithaenc (not Ithaenac... or Scalvus for that matter <Sclavus>.. or even courses <coruscates>) then explain why there's never been any sign of them at, in, or near to the Ithaenc right up to current date, and the first appearance of a creature known as "Falatacot" occured when cottages were first introduced? Notice that Undead were around LONG before Falatacot ever showed up on our radars. If you're then going to mention this all occured during the Bael arc... let me remind you that Bael came along a GOOD ways after the start of AC. I know, because I was there then.. and I even stood in Bael Zharon's dungeon next to it, before most had ever seen it... which is besides the point, but just so you know that you don't know everything you think you do.

Geraine? Never seen mention of that name ever during the Shadow Invasions/abductions, but then I never cared much for lore names so I suppose he could've been in there somewhere... I was too busy answering distress calls for stuck players or harrasment etc., to worry about game lore. But, I was there also.. right up inside the Spires, a place that not many people ever saw... not that there was anything much to see, other than being way high up in the sky.

If you ask me, right up until you mention Martine and Gaerlan, I'd say you're quite a bit off the mark in terms of lore knowledge. A lot that you say just doesn't make any sense... but then I never was an AC Lore Major, because it's just a GAME.. and when the game is OVER (and it will be one day)... all the lore will have been for naught, and will have done absolutely zero to enrich anyone's life.

The VAST majority of players of this game could care less about Lore... heck, they don't even read the dev notes after each patch, preferring instead to ask everyone else in game... /a Hey! What's new this patch? To which I supply them the url for the dev notes and tell em "Go read it for yourself!" heh. People want to kill monsters or pvp... that's the extent of their interest.. if your thing is game lore.. fine, knock yourself out... but you're the minority. Just try to get it right first before telling others how it all came to be. ;)

Oh, and again.. that's "coruscates". :rolleyes:

Edit: In 5 seconds I've found more "correct" game lore than anything your reply goes into. Anyway.. that's it from me. I really don't wish to discuss this anymore as it's just not my cup of tea. But do go look up the things that you want to explain to others.. the info is all there for the looking... if that's what makes your $13/month seem well spent.

[Zaerik-MT]

Nope, that's what you're saying.
No, im actually trying to understand what you mean by asking a question.

...and this matters to who? How does it enrich the purpose for this game? What does it do for enlightenment and why? What is your reason for playing AC... to follow lore that means nothing to the advancement of your character, that will be gone once AC drops into gaming history where all it will be remembered for is "Yeah, AC was a cool game, huh?".
Some people, like me, enjoy AC's lore and do talk about it ingame, it give a sense of roleplaying...considering that this is a role playing game.

[FmrSentFlatfoot]

No, im actually trying to understand what you mean by asking a question.

I didn't ask a question, I made a statement.

Some people, like me, enjoy AC's lore and do talk about it ingame, it give a sense of roleplaying...considering that this is a role playing game.

Cool. What role do you play?

[Zaerik-MT]

Let me rephrase for the illiterate:
When I say, "No, im actually trying to understand what you mean by asking a question."
This means that I was trying...to understand what YOU meant. (Still with me?) Ok so, the next thing I do is Ask YOU, what you mean. Now when you put it together, I was just asking if that was what you meant, wasnt trying to start an argument. A simple Answer would have worked.

[astalon_decurth]

Believe it or not there are quite a few people who love the Lore (Myself Included) .. that is mainly why I play and I have been playing since 01. If you want a game without lore do a FPS. The lore is what makes the game interesting. Sure they could just focus on building a character with no lore but what fun would that be... If you live for pushing the green triangle maybee you should find something more along your intrest and dont bash people who do like the aspect of this game. Just my 2 Py.

[Silifi Of Death]

...and this matters to who? How does it enrich the purpose for this game? What does it do for enlightenment and why? What is your reason for playing AC... to follow lore that means nothing to the advancement of your character, that will be gone once AC drops into gaming history where all it will be remembered for is "Yeah, AC was a cool game, huh?".

That's exactly all it is now and is destined to become. So the lore means nothing because you're not going to even mention the lore as you kill the monsters while doing the quests, or the ones you kill on the way to doing the quests, or the ones you kill for the sake of killing. You'll be interested in advancing your character(s) to the next level, and that's where it began and will end. All the inbetween is just the rantings of an over-active imagination, just like we find in all or most fantasy movies that we go watch in the theatre, and once we've seen it, never think about it again.

So when do you plan to change "courses" to the proper word "coruscates" that's been in your signature for a year now? heh That alone would show more credence than any game lore.

If the Falatacot were around since the start of AC, don't you think Advocates would've known about them enough to impart some of this lore to new travellers entering the game? Funny, I don't ever recall being told about them during my advocate training during Beta? Imagine that. Also, if they built the Ithaenc (not Ithaenac... or Scalvus for that matter <Sclavus>.. or even courses <coruscates>) then explain why there's never been any sign of them at, in, or near to the Ithaenc right up to current date, and the first appearance of a creature known as "Falatacot" occured when cottages were first introduced? Notice that Undead were around LONG before Falatacot ever showed up on our radars. If you're then going to mention this all occured during the Bael arc... let me remind you that Bael came along a GOOD ways after the start of AC. I know, because I was there then.. and I even stood in Bael Zharon's dungeon next to it, before most had ever seen it... which is besides the point, but just so you know that you don't know everything you think you do.

Geraine? Never seen mention of that name ever during the Shadow Invasions/abductions, but then I never cared much for lore names so I suppose he could've been in there somewhere... I was too busy answering distress calls for stuck players or harrasment etc., to worry about game lore. But, I was there also.. right up inside the Spires, a place that not many people ever saw... not that there was anything much to see, other than being way high up in the sky.

If you ask me, right up until you mention Martine and Gaerlan, I'd say you're quite a bit off the mark in terms of lore knowledge. A lot that you say just doesn't make any sense... but then I never was an AC Lore Major, because it's just a GAME.. and when the game is OVER (and it will be one day)... all the lore will have been for naught, and will have done absolutely zero to enrich anyone's life.

The VAST majority of players of this game could care less about Lore... heck, they don't even read the dev notes after each patch, preferring instead to ask everyone else in game... /a Hey! What's new this patch? To which I supply them the url for the dev notes and tell em "Go read it for yourself!" heh. People want to kill monsters or pvp... that's the extent of their interest.. if your thing is game lore.. fine, knock yourself out... but you're the minority. Just try to get it right first before telling others how it all came to be. ;)

Oh, and again.. that's "coruscates". :rolleyes:

Edit: In 5 seconds I've found more "correct" game lore than anything your reply goes into. Anyway.. that's it from me. I really don't wish to discuss this anymore as it's just not my cup of tea. But do go look up the things that you want to explain to others.. the info is all there for the looking... if that's what makes your $13/month seem well spent.

Falatacot were the ones who built Ithaenac. It was in the original lore of the Vesayens, far before this year, that they were involved. Adja, who was on the Council of 5 that trapped BZ, used Falatacot magic to extend Asheron's life to surpass that of a regular person. So they have been around since the beginning. Geraine, well, anyone that knows anything about AC's Lore knows he's been around forever, so you're just stupid, ignorant, or apathetic.

I don't understand your complaint, if that's what it is. You're just generally mad about something that no one can figure out and you babble on and on about how lore isn't good or something? Well that's your opinion, but I like the lore, and that's why I stay with AC. Again, you don't have any arguement, nor do you have a point to anything that you're saying.

Oh, and again.. that's "coruscates". :rolleyes:

The quote in my signature is (obviously) a quote. I don't correct the words to make it sound grammatically correct or to use the right words, because then it's not a real quote, is it? I guess the first of my guesses was right on the money.

[Skinnerc]

I love lore more than anything about AC, that aside, perhaps we should shut up and stop yelling at eachother, and figure out the damn lore? or, if it suits you better, stop yelling at us loremasters, and go PLAY!

[MrsKenny]

I agree. It is fun knowing and trying to figure out where the characters are from and what they are up to. Can't wait to find out what kind of mischief Nummy is up to now. :p

[FmrSentFlatfoot]

Falatacot were the ones who built Ithaenac. It was in the original lore of the Vesayens, far before this year, that they were involved. Adja, who was on the Council of 5 that trapped BZ, used Falatacot magic to extend Asheron's life to surpass that of a regular person. So they have been around since the beginning. Geraine, well, anyone that knows anything about AC's Lore knows he's been around forever, so you're just stupid, ignorant, or apathetic.

Yadda yadda yadda.. like it means anything important to effect better gameplay. lol

I don't understand your complaint, if that's what it is. You're just generally mad about something that no one can figure out and you babble on and on about how lore isn't good or something?

"I" babble on?!? Um, I think you befit that label better than I do concering interest in AC Lore. I could care less about it because it does absolutely nothing to enhance this game. A friend of mine many years back had this thing about knowing every little tidbit of info regarding TV Commercials... we all labelled him The Dictionary of Useless Information... that's how I see AC Lore as well, because what is it going to lead to in terms of life knowledge down the road? Like TV Commercials, they come and they go.. and AC has come and one day it will go.. and everything you ever did that took up so much of your time to study it, will have been for nothing, hence a total waste of time.

But hey.. it's YOUR time... and if you wish to waste it on useless information, then knock yourself out! :rolleyes:

Well that's your opinion, but I like the lore, and that's why I stay with AC. Again, you don't have any arguement, nor do you have a point to anything that you're saying.

Well then neither do you, because my opinion is just as valid as anyone else', and that's the POINT. Get it?

The quote in my signature is (obviously) a quote. I don't correct the words to make it sound grammatically correct or to use the right words, because then it's not a real quote, is it? I guess the first of my guesses was right on the money.

But the quote is incorrect, and for you to use it as part of your signature, knowing it is incorrect also befits those wonderful names (specifically the first one) you called me at the end of your first paragraph, which, by the way, is/are against the CoC of this forum, and you should watch what you say to people. This isn't VN Boards here.

Usually people who make up quotes, are people who can write properly and know how to spell. For people interested enough to display quotes as written by unschooled people... well.. you figure it out. :p I know that if I came across a quote which I thought was cool, but had a spelling error, I would correct it, not only for my own benefit, but also to honour the one who quoted it, so both THEY and I didn't look stupid. :)

[FmrSentFlatfoot]

Let me rephrase for the illiterate:
When I say, "No, im actually trying to understand what you mean by asking a question."
This means that I was trying...to understand what YOU meant. (Still with me?) Ok so, the next thing I do is Ask YOU, what you mean. Now when you put it together, I was just asking if that was what you meant, wasnt trying to start an argument. A simple Answer would have worked.

Yep, what I said is what I meant. Hope this answers your question. :)

[Deven-Kenyon]

FmrSentFlatfoot, would you go see the third The lord of the Rings before you saw the prior two chapters? Probably not, and neither would I, as I would have been confused (that's saying if I've never read the books before, which I have not) and wouldn't understand much of the back history without having seen them first. Nor would you see the final chapters of Star Wars without having seen the beginning ones; things just don't work that way.

The same applies to AC. Each bit of lore makes up the game as we progress, and it may seem it has nothing to do with today's standards of leveling, but in the questing aspect, it has a lot to do with it. Those who didn’t know their Sho history wouldn’t have been able to figure out the Curse of the Golden Coin quest until someone accidentally stumbled upon it one day. Granted, the quest wasn’t all that great, but it was based on lore, as is every other quest in this game. So what if some think Turbine may over dramatize it sometimes, to each their own eh? I’m among those who like the lore, and I may be wasting my time on it, but it’s my time, and I choose what I do with it, like you’re free to just hop in game and kill away not having a scant of interest in the history.

The lack of interest seen over the years is due in part by the impatient people, those who just want to fire up the game, be levels of all mighty, and slay everything in their path regardless of the history, and in order to do that, macro's were created to make it even easier. What does a computer care about lore anyway eh?

I'm thinking you're an ex employee or volunteer of Turbine, and you too are disgusted with how this game has turned out, perhaps Turbine will take note of that, and how very hard it is to role play a role-playing game when dapper suits are brought in, and gambling dens added, and those too related to reality theme/items introduced each month. In trying to appease those happy go lucky be as high a level and have the best weapon/armor to level faster people of this game, Turbine lost what was most important to the game, the storyline. If people just want to hack and slash, then there’s halo, or Age of Empires.

It’s been mentioned here a few times about a summery of the lore, and since you seem such a great well of information (and I mean that, it’s not an attack), why not put your articulacy to better use by writing one than informing the players here how wrong they are about the lore?

[FmrSentFlatfoot]

Believe it or not there are quite a few people who love the Lore (Myself Included) .. that is mainly why I play and I have been playing since 01. If you want a game without lore do a FPS. The lore is what makes the game interesting. Sure they could just focus on building a character with no lore but what fun would that be... If you live for pushing the green triangle maybee you should find something more along your intrest and dont bash people who do like the aspect of this game. Just my 2 Py.

You've been here since 01? I've been here since second quarter of 99... so what of it? I'll tell you one thing.. the Lore at the start of this game was interesting... but I've seen a few others in this forum and other AC Related Sites say how the Lore has taken a nosedive into obscurity where it no longer ties together or makes any sense. There was a major VOID from when they released the (OLT) On-Line Team Members (the ones who actually cared the most about the players), up until when Martine, Gaerlan appeared (and then it stagnated again for another while), so that what you have is a mixmash of AC Lore that isn't complete and is missing a lot of the inbetween stuff. Silifi appears to know a lot.. but there are others out there who know a lot more, and they're the ones who have lost interest (as have I) because of how it all got broken apart... until recently where we join in with a whole new chapter that's unrelated to the past chapters back down to the start, in November 99.

Who's bashing who? I'm stating an opinion that is my personal right to do so, and people like Zaerik-MT who calls me illiterate (obviously doesn't know what the word means, as I haven't made any spelling errors, which indicates that I also must know how to read... lol), and Silifi of Death seems to enjoy calling me "Stupid" and "Ignorant", because I again, happen to have an opinion? That's who's doing the bashing here.

I do play FPS as well.. that's when I'm in the mood for PvP, because there is no substitute. AC is a joke for PvP, and that too is my opinion, which people don't have to agree with. But ask John Carmac (only serious PvP'ers know who he is) what REAL PvP is, and he'd also likely say, it's NOT AC. ;)

John Carmac, if asked by Turbine, likely wouldn't diss AC for trying to be a good pvp type game, but Turbine knows who John Carmac is, and I'm sure they wouldn't argue with him about what true pvp is. heh..

Besides, on the subject of AC PvP, don't you find it odd that people who screamed for VT to have been made another DT world? Go look at DT now, there's 59 mansions available, 2 Villas (just looked today before patch), 1199 Apartments, and too many cottages to find out exactly how many, and that was using 1280x960 resolution. So likely 300+ cottages. Therefore DT is practically BARREN. So much for PvP! lol Makes me wonder why they even keep it going... they should do away with it, and make all servers exclusively white.

Wanna play a PvP game.. go play a John Carmac game... now THAT'S PvP like it was meant to be! :eek: You have to do ALL the aiming for yourself... AC does all the aiming for you... total laziness that doesn't promote hand-eye coordination. You can't heal yourself on the spot.. too easy, drags the game out too long and makes it boring. You aim, you shoot.. if you aimed properly, your opponent DIES on the spot.. or if he gets lucky and you clip him, he lives but has only a quarter health and must now scramble to the nearest health pack (if someone grabbed them before him.. he can't heal)... one more little shot (maybe from a spread weapon), he's dead. No chances.. none of this chase someone around for half an hour to get a kill. PvP should be like that.. Aim, shoot.. Kill. Period. That's HIGH energy.. that's a BLAST... and boy is it ever FUN! Try it sometime... I guarantee you'll never care about AC PvP again. :cool:

You know how a war spell will sometimes track an opponent while they're moving, and land a good blow? Well, in real PvP games, YOU are the one who has to see your opponents movement, and judge from his speed and the distance between him and you.. and shoot a rocket etc., to meet where he will be when the rocket gets there... that's what makes real PvP such a blast, and is the difference between doing all the precision guesswork yourself, or letting some game do it all for you, removing the satisfaction that YOUR expertise and skill is what got the kill.

Okay I'm outta here.... time for bed, so that when I get up in about six hours, the servers should be up within an additional 3 when I'm awake enough to play. :p Unless the patch is buggy....again, and requires a rollback. :rolleyes:

[Zaerik-MT]

FmrSentFlatfoot, i dont think you see the point, why do we pay attention to lore when its just worthless information...Why do people write novels and books of stories and movies...

[FmrSentFlatfoot]

FmrSentFlatfoot, would you go see the third The lord of the Rings before you saw the prior two chapters? Probably not, and neither would I, as I would have been confused (that's saying if I've never read the books before, which I have not) and wouldn't understand much of the back history without having seen them first. Nor would you see the final chapters of Star Wars without having seen the beginning ones; things just don't work that way.

The same applies to AC. Each bit of lore makes up the game as we progress, and it may seem it has nothing to do with today's standards of leveling, but in the questing aspect, it has a lot to do with it. Those who didn’t know their Sho history wouldn’t have been able to figure out the Curse of the Golden Coin quest until someone accidentally stumbled upon it one day. Granted, the quest wasn’t all that great, but it was based on lore, as is every other quest in this game. So what if some think Turbine may over dramatize it sometimes, to each their own eh? I’m among those who like the lore, and I may be wasting my time on it, but it’s my time, and I choose what I do with it, like you’re free to just hop in game and kill away not having a scant of interest in the history.

It appears I was replying to astalon-decurth when you wrote this... so I guess the part I mentioned to him regarding Lore could be used to answer you here. Glad that takes care of this section. :)

The lack of interest seen over the years is due in part by the impatient people, those who just want to fire up the game, be levels of all mighty, and slay everything in their path regardless of the history, and in order to do that, macro's were created to make it even easier. What does a computer care about lore anyway eh?

I'm thinking you're an ex employee or volunteer of Turbine, and you too are disgusted with how this game has turned out, perhaps Turbine will take note of that, and how very hard it is to role play a role-playing game when dapper suits are brought in, and gambling dens added, and those too related to reality theme/items introduced each month. In trying to appease those happy go lucky be as high a level and have the best weapon/armor to level faster people of this game, Turbine lost what was most important to the game, the storyline. If people just want to hack and slash, then there’s halo, or Age of Empires.

Thanks for your reply... it's the most down to earth one yet in this thread. :)

I've never been the type to want to be levels of almighty... that's for people with a hidden inward superiority complex driven by a large EGO. Some people show those qualities right away, and in others it can take 1-5 years to develop. I just lost the friendships of two people I've known since the start of AC, that never in my wildest dreams thought were that type, but I guess it can happen to anyone, when they attain a position of power within an allegiance, where the followers look up to them as the KEY pillar of knowledge and authority. *shrug* Oh well.. them's the breaks I guess.

Sure I have a certain level of impatience, I think we all do in varying degrees. Macros? lol.. I wish I was still a +Sentinel equivalent (currently +Envoy), as pressing the big red BAN button would be something that would give me great pleasure for people who Combat Macro. I've never done it, I never could do it... because I was well taught the CoC and as much as I may argue and say some of the things I do in here, I don't break it in-game, and still to this day report anything I see that is a violation; Yes, even people in my own allegiance... no partiality. heh Fair is fair.

I play mainly for FUN... and probably 80% of my time now, is spent on helping others in any and every way I possibly can. That's my bag in this game now.. I enjoy it, and always have.. even long ago when I didn't have anywhere near the resources I have today. If I didn't or don't have it.. I'll go hunting to get it, or if I have the funds to buy, will do so in order that the person in need can get it sooner. I'm no angel.. but that's what gives me great pleasure.. and is probably another reason I enjoyed my Sentinel duties as much as I did. It is better to give, than it is to receive. See my signature. :)

You sure hit the mark by saying I'm disgusted at what AC has become since the disbanding of the original OnLine Team (Volunteers). An awful lot of them left the game almost right after that, and more followed over the years... only the crazy ones like myself stuck to it.. because we still enjoyed the GAME. It really is the best MMO out there, and has been since it started. The proof is that in almost every case of the new ones that were released, where people left to play them.. a great deal of them returned. I may throw a monkey wrench into certain parts of this game where I vehemently disagree, but I still know that AC is the best for ME anyway... How long that lasts, is anyone's guess. But I have said and will again say, nothing lasts forever.

I'm happy to quote you in: "Turbine lost what was most important to the game, the storyline." Because you're right on the money, and that's my main argument regarding the Lore. Why people have to get so uptight at others who express their opinion is beyond me. It's as if only their opinions are correct, and anyone who opposes it is "Illiterate, stupid, and ignorant". lol Seems to me those who try to disallow other's right to their opinion, are the true ignorant ones. I know that in America now, we're living in as close as we've ever been to a mock dictatorship (that we suprisingly just voted for... again?), but that doesn't mean that people shouldn't be entitled to their own ideas and personal opinions, right?

In terms of hack and slash.. I like that stuff too, and am very much looking forward to Halo II for the PC. :) But those games are not the kind that keep me enthralled for long.. and then I eventually saunter back into AC.

It’s been mentioned here a few times about a summery of the lore, and since you seem such a great well of information (and I mean that, it’s not an attack), why not put your articulacy to better use by writing one than informing the players here how wrong they are about the lore?

Ewwwww.. thanks for the compliment.. but I honestly have no interest or time (now that helping people fills my days) to try and patch up where the lore died and where it regained a semblence of realism... if it even exists anymore. All the inbetween that's been lost... to patch that up would require a lot of make-it-up-as-you-go, which is just what they did to get us where we are now. They've done it already.. and very little makes any sense. It would require MUCH patience... that I don't have. lol

I'm better off to just continue on the same path. My true friends who need me around are far more important to me than any make believe storyline could ever enthrall.

Looking to the past, long long ago... when a bunch of us went on a quest.. NO ONE EVER mentioned anything at all about any of the Lore first that comprised what the quest was supposed to mean. No one cared! They still don't! All people say now is: "What do we get?" - "How hard is it?" - "What level do you need to be and what creatures are we going to fight, and what do I need to buff for?". THAT is what people want to know. THAT is what they care about... they don't want to know about the lore of whatever it means. Those that do, are such a small minority, they may as well be extinct, and practically are.

Anyway... now it's REALLY past my bedtime. lol.... cya later. Hope the patch goes smooth... :)

[Ibn]

Hey folks -- if you're not interested in the lore, that's fine, but please take it out of this thread. This thread is for discussing the teaser, not arguing why you do or don't care about it.

[FmrSentFlatfoot]

Hey folks -- if you're not interested in the lore, that's fine, but please take it out of this thread. This thread is for discussing the teaser, not arguing why you do or don't care about it.

Cool.. I agree...

Now I can go to bed.... finally :)

[Bozo]

Thx Ibn !
Btw great teaser ! :D

[Forsaken one]

Only thing that comes to mind. Yawn

[FmrSentFlatfoot]

I have yet to find somthing I can't kill solo in this game.

Try a TM.... lol

Let me know where to send the flowers. :D

[tesla_ff]

i love the lore. especialy part 2 and 3. id like to be able to purchase a book of all the lore from day one til now (paperback is fine)
you cant understand the world your chr lives in without lore.

and guys, pls dont waste time argueing with ppl whpo dont like lore, let them go back to there shooters.