Reason why PK servers should have their own dev team.

[King of Kings]

http://www.skotos.net/articles/BTH_12.shtml

If you really believe myth 1, do you think Halo 2 would have the biggest video game launcher ever on its 1st day? Come on now.

[silvurhawke]

Wow! Thanks for the link to a great article! Maybe there is hope for future MMORGPs after all. Jessica is spot on. A game should be either 100% non-PvP or 100% PvP and never the twain shall meet.

I don't care for PK and I don't care for the faction games. It's nice to know there is someone out there like Jessica who sees it so clearly. PK should have their own devs, in fact they should have their own game (Shadowbane?) as non-PvP should have their own devs and game. Mixing them together in the same game is asking for trouble.

[Flesheater]

I just hope Turbine one day realize how bad pk/pkl have been for this game and just takes it away.

[Flesheater]

LOL what worlds are having population problems today? Isnt it DT and other worlds that used to have a large pkl population? Ohh yes thats true. Who is stll playing? Hmm must be the non pk/pkl players I guess.

[Alltu_Tru]

why do all PKers think they are the majority of Turbines subs??

I personally know only 2 PKers, and I know over 3 dozen people REAL well ingame. Heck, no one in my guild is a PKer... only 2 in the last guild I was in were PKers (and they TRIED to get a pk team together.... no one wanted to...)

[Flesheater]

Without PK/PKL alot of the problems in game would be minimized and the devs could concentrate on real stuff instead of the never ending story of balancing PK/PKL.

[Cubic]

DT is the bastard child of AC, and because of that I love it. I started AC on Darktide 5 years ago, and since day one it has been the hated server, I think not only by the other servers (after all, it is the only server not part of the o.O crowd), but the Devs as well.. Hell, Devilmouse was probably the only Dev that truely gave a crap about DT. DT is here to stay, so is PvP, it isnt leaving, deal with it.

[King of Kings]

Without PK/PKL alot of the problems in game would be minimized and the devs could concentrate on real stuff instead of the never ending story of balancing PK/PKL.

They don't do much to PK/PKL now but keep messing up the balance. Without PK/PKL, once people get bored they won't have anything else to do but talk and talking < PvP system. AC has the best PK ever. Why take it away to concentrate on patches which has been weak for 6-7 months? And no those weak patches aren't PKs fault. Its because of Turbine lack of creativity.

why do all PKers think they are the majority of Turbines subs??

I personally know only 2 PKers, and I know over 3 dozen people REAL well ingame. Heck, no one in my guild is a PKer... only 2 in the last guild I was in were PKers (and they TRIED to get a pk team together.... no one wanted to...)

How come when we complain, people always gotta bring up the "majority"? Just because we aren't the majority doesn't mean we shouldn't be listened to. And what does you knowing 2 PKers have to do with anything? That are way more people but 2 of your buddies. I think you got a few screws loose. We pay our money too. Thing is that we lost Devilmouse, or whatever his name was, the only dev who cared about PvP in the past and hes gone. We are stuck with lethargic devs such as Jessica, Ibn, Scenario, etc. They just care about the white, not the red. This is why we need our own dev team. Its not fair (I know life ain't fair) but damn lol.

LOL what worlds are having population problems today? Isnt it DT and other worlds that used to have a large pkl population? Ohh yes thats true. Who is stll playing? Hmm must be the non pk/pkl players I guess.

So by your logic, if a world has low population, we should just that world die out and don't listen to those players? None of their loyalty, time and dues doesn't matter anymore? How selfish.

[silvurhawke]

Yeah then they really wont have any players but you and a few other purist/extremist carebears who think AC will live without some sort of PvP system. What are you smoking?

Reread my post? I agreed with you. I posted politely and you respond insultingly and accuse me of being on some sort of drug.

I don't want to play PvP games because they are populated by morons like you. I realize some folks like PvP but like Jessicas article states imposing it on those who don't want it can cause enormous problems. I may not want to PvP and you may and you'll probably end up virtually murdering me or others.

My whole life is PvP and when I relax at a video game the last thing I want is some pimply faced 15 year old snot nosed punk talking smack and with his many wasted hours of online testosterone.

AC would have been much more successful from day one and on if PvP never existed along with it's ugly balance issues and the enormous drain on dev time. I firmly believe until game developers go either 100% PvP or 100% non-PvP they will have problems. Non-PvP and PvP are two totally different approaches to enjoying ones free time. Reread that article. Jessica makes so much sense it's scary. Game devs keep trying to be all things to all people. What they need to do is concentrate on a niche and dedicate themselves to that instead.

[ChildoftheKoRn]

Without PK/PKL alot of the problems in game would be minimized and the devs could concentrate on real stuff instead of the never ending story of balancing PK/PKL.

Like how many chocolate chips should be in the new cookies!!!

Get real PvP brings life to games, this games dieing out cause their focusing too much on the NPK stuff, look how many peeps came back for vt, the majority of people that came in that rush were from DT, and even old school DT. PK doesnt ruin a game, its people that believe that there should be no pk whatso ever, They become bitter and start getting a mean look on their face. pfft how many pkls stand around all day and just look at whites and say BAKE MORE PIES. Outta nowhere, if you stand in the mp for just a few min you'll hear whites talkin so much **** yet not even try to go pink. Oh no I dont wanna die it'll rack up the #'s although I wont even gain vitae or lose items. To hell with you o.0's

[Virindi Clown]

I just hope Turbine one day realize how bad pk/pkl have been for this game and just takes it away.

Go away.

[Virindi Clown]

Flesheater and Alltu, why are you retards posting on the Darktide forum?

excuse me..the pvp forums. Oh ya that's right, Turbine added pkl so now all you retarded carebears think you are all educated in pvp.

It doesn't even get that far.

Flesheater has said several times that PvP of all sorts should just be removed, basically because he doesn't like it and doesn't do it. He is selfish and doesn't say anything constructive.

[Thanatos_DT]

I completeley disagree with Jessican's article but lets refrain from the personal attacks.

That gives them an excuse to terminate threads with our legit arguments against her nonsense article.

[Tical]

Aight I just wanted a good laugh.

[Ethan Hunt'_DT]

Without PK/PKL alot of the problems in game would be minimized and the devs could concentrate on real stuff instead of the never ending story of balancing PK/PKL.


I just had to laugh at this one. Concentrate on real stuff you mean dyes in the game because the color of armor is real stuff.

[ElronOfDarktide]

Balancing PK is only a never ending story because the dev's are constantly changing things

for example

when melees were doing the right ammount of dammage (back before the melee nerf that took 4 months to fix) is when the "debuffable BP + spell word changes were implemented RIGHT??

were those not both melee love????

so ... at the time the dev's thought melee needed love OVER AND ABOVE where it was....

then they undid the love.... k, so now were are back to square one...

then they nerfed melee!!!! (did they NOT just think melee needed love from square 1??)

then they raised streak damage.....hmmm... i thought they thought melee needed love... then they nerfed them... now they nerf them again???

see... what im trying to say is "if they did not do changes NO ONE ASKED FOR OR WANTED then it would not be a never ending story of balance". Players ask for changes that push things TOWARDS balance ... like fixing bow bug ..... dev's do things that push things away from balance, like melee D wands.

ELron

[Mimir]

Go away.

what? I think his idea of removing pk/pkl is great, that way we can just all go onto bigger and better things instead of clinging to AC