Turbine - New Pk Server

[IgntionTDC]

Closing this thread before the "DT r0x0rz vs. DT suxx0rz" debate can degrade further.

Just a couple of things, can we still expect to see a new player killer server come expansion? And will the moseliums be removed to promote old leveling habits since all chains and ucm has been banned?

[Gordian]

Just a couple of things, can we still expect to see a new player killer server come expansion? And will the moseliums be removed to promote old leveling habits since all chains and ucm has been banned?


Still expect?

Where did you ever read something that said there would be a new pk server for ToD?

The only thing I've ever heard was that IF there ever is a new server it will be pk.

[IgntionTDC]

I read somewhere on the vault there WILL be a new pk server come to the original march release.

[MaddyFF]

I read somewhere on the vault there WILL be a new pk server come to the original march release.

What was said is the next server will be a PK server, if the numbers warrant it. So if only 200-300 are on DT at a time on average I wouldn't expect a new PK server as the numbers don't look good from a ROI point of view.

[Septa Scarabae]

DT is already lacking in interaction and you want a new server?

[IgntionTDC]

DT is lacks, stinks, or whatever you want to say, because of the players. The weak have all the good things, while say the strong have a level eighty character they can't kill the weak with. Someone whines because their character doesn't have all the goods like another, and I can take the PvP boards the Al-Neo thread and my prime example.

A new server could attract fighters from all servers, not just a heavily weakened Darktide and it's players.

Think about it, only the true would stay. You can earn your levels instead of xp chains, ucm'ing, and other honorless means of leveling.

"Real" Player Killers will go to the new server.

Oh and heh, I don't question whos a real player killer, I question the will of the player killer.

Imbalance is false, Character fighting is fine. Skill does and will always conquer all.

Whining makes you weak and cowardice, while the strong hunt and kill a hundred men a day without ever complaining about how hard the struggle was, the reward was the victory over the others.

[MaddyFF]

A new server could attract fighters from all servers, not just a heavily weakened Darktide and it's players.

And in a month you would start seeing things like you do on DT right now.

[IgntionTDC]

I highly doubt that there will be no skill on the new pk server. And everyone is maxxed because thats the only way they can reassure themselves any type of victory.

[morrigan]

About last week sometime I read something very interesting on VN DT boards. "White world" players were seeking to start on DT, curious about the xp levers etc. The responses of the "real pk" players amazed me. Then again, I see it here too on these boards.

They don't want fresh blood, that post showed it extremely well of what they thought about newcomers coming to DT. Yet they will complain they "need" something.

[Warhawk]

The problem with DT is, most of the players from the "old days" left because of XP Chains etc. They didnt leave because of a better game, or because they couldnt take the heat of a PVP server.

The Darktide of old, from the days of initial cration until about 2 years post, were the best gaming I have ever had.

XP Chains, Macros, and some ohter things (third party programs etc) really ruined the experience of Darktide.

A fresh server where everyone starts with the same rules etc would certainly be a good thing.

[Jayd_Varion]

Wow, what a misinformed post.

The fact is no server is harder then DT. Leveling is extremely difficult in comparison to other servers. The reason the player base on DT wont let people from carebear servers use levers is simple. It is the same reason the player base on DT call some people ebay whores. All of it is because they don't like people just jumping into thier server not having paid thier dues so to speak. As an example it took me 3 years not including the breaks Ive taken to get a level 170 on DT. It has taken me less then 2 months to get a 151 on WE and Ill be 200 before expansion.

As per PK skill??? What you say makes no sense. All people on DT do is PK, they have no choice. And each and every time they fight knowing they may lose some item they have of value. They are better on average at PK battles then other servers not because they are l33t or whatever, it is just because of practice. Take anyone from any server give them the same practice and they to will be the same.

And the level comment is silly, once you have a mage that hits 90-100 on DT you dont even bother IDing people because you realize very early on in DT that level isnt all that important. It is just a pretty number.

[IgntionTDC]

[QUOTE=Jayd_Varion]As per PK skill??? What you say makes no sense. All people on DT do is PK,[QUOTE]

I don't agree, at all. They pk some, but since of late I've seen one player killer battle. I have passed around, ehh lets say.. 20 pks. I only god killed by a pk, twice.

All Darktide is now is a bunch of people who go and whore moselums to make xp, then they pk for a month or so and quit.

What I am saying, is that if you have a new player killer server, and get rid of the moselums, people have to earn their level again. There will be no leet uber chain to get into. It's pretty damn obvious now that who ever is an extraordinary level has cheated his way to get to the top. Especially on an all red server. New Pk server means this, everyone is level 1, new guilds will be formed. We will have new land and a new playable race, and pk/l's who love to fight just don't love the grind will come and compete again. It's all about competition, new server with no xp chains, no ucm, and fair leveling gives anyone and everyone an equal opportunity to level and fight. The only complaints we have is the people who have to go against their own set of standards, as in ACM, lots of hunting, or a dominant guild they dont appreciate.

Get fresh new pk's, and it will really separate the dominant and/or dedicated from the feeble. Yes I understand some don't have much time to play, but that's the concept, get in either fight or level.

[Ibn]

There are currently no plans to open a new server as part of the Throne of Destiny release, we've never indicated that there were any plans like this.

We've said that the next server we open will be PK, but we've never given any timeline or statement about when we might be able to do this.

[PsycoOrca]

Quick! while hes not looking, Put words in his mouth! :D

[Delupin]

I play on DT on a daily basis; I also play on a white server on a daily basis. I can say, without compunction, that the playerbase on DT is significantly more moronic than on the white server. There is less attention to grammar, logic and rationality -- DT's playerbase is essentially illiterate imbeciles with seriously misdirected anger and resentment. For every Virindi Clown or Rayne of Amber there's a functionally mute cretin, blathering bigotted and senseless epithets.

The white servers have this problem to a much lesser degree. Think of it in terms of numbers -- there are 8 times as many white servers, and yet do you see even twice as many cretins from these servers as you do from Darktide? Of course you don't, because DT's populace, as most of its intelligent players are more than prepared to admit, is predominantly consituted by by an intellectual underclass. The sort of people who get off on the ephemeral, visceral satisfaction DT offers.

[PsycoOrca]

If people on DT didnt agree with Virindi Clown or Rayne of Amber they would post and voice thier opinion's. Myself I may not like VC or Rayne in game but I do agree with thier views of/for DT.

[Delupin]

I'm not making any qualitative judgement about the content of Virindi Clown's or Rayne of Amber's posts; I'm simply drawing attention to the fact that, in contrast to the majority of DT's playerbase, they're able to express themselves with a degree of intelligence and coherence. They're by no means alone, but they do compose a minority on the server; this observation, painful though it may be to some, is empirically verifiable.

My point is that player killers as a group do not deserve another server on their own steam, "hardcore" or otherwise. And I count myself among their number.

[IgntionTDC]

Alright, I and amung others that Ive consulted with definately read a statement on the vn, that saying when it was originally released in march, it would be a pk server on the opening with Throne of Destiny.

But whatever, things change.

[PsycoOrca]

was the statement on VN posted by someone from turbine?

[Yula_the_Mighty]

Alright, I and amung others that Ive consulted with definately read a statement on the vn, that saying when it was originally released in march, it would be a pk server on the opening with Throne of Destiny.

But whatever, things change.
Turbine does not make official policy statements on VN. They post them here on the Turbine forums and web sites. The only official statements that I've seen on VN are polls or posts copied from the Turbine official boards (e.g. service issue).

Yula the Mighty - HG