Any plans to fix Raven Fury?

[Dark Tide Guy]

Or is it going to remain the portal-drop camper's choice for a one-shot kill?

It baffles me why there is [still] a spell in this game that can kill anyone in one cast, regardless of health and level.

[Berzerk]

How about you guys start asking us for ideas. Your ideas for PvP or an enjoyable experience are simply lacking. How in the name of God could anyone have though Raven's Fury is a good idea is beyond any form of logical thought.

1. Get someone on your staff who has a real-time programmer background.

2. Correct war spell targetting it's a joke and shames you.

3. Get rid of endless potion drinking. Going from 1 to full health is a joke.

4. Correct run speed to actual resemble skill.

5. Do something about rubberbanding.

6. FOR PETE'S SAKE DO SOMETHING ABOUT GEAR.

B.

[Frank The Knife]

Yeah and I keep getting one hit by melees. Sure I have terrible armor but so what! I PAID 28 SKILL POINTS!!!!!!!!! and I should own everyone but other mages.

I fought (nameless melee) and I hit him for 80 on a crit while I was blasted for my full 450 hp and died! No dam fair!

Also I hate to wear good armor because Im lazy and dont feel like tinkering my major ward armor or collecting good DI's. Like I said I shouldnt have to because I PAID 28 SKILL POINTS!!!!

I want to be able to tank 3-6 melees like the old days. No way should a melee hit me for over 10 on speed or 30 crits. All they do is press Del. and watch the screen.

Devs PLEASE dont listen to the no skill hacks that cant exploit your animation engine. If you take away my exploits Im gonna QUIT!!!!


Edit.....

Oh yeah and uh yeah GEAR DOES NOT EXIST!!! heh Yeah some guys cant see skill when it flys across the screen and hits them from nowhere.

Oh edit again...

Btw: Use a spell checker.

[Paraduck]

> Any plans to fix Raven Fury?

It's hard to fix something that's not broken.

[Berzerk]

> Any plans to fix Raven Fury?

It's hard to fix something that's not broken.

Not broken? Sorry, you're everso wrong.

Firstly, It's a gimp spell used mainly to kill people using a portal.

Secondi, No spell should one hit anyone, especially a full health character at some 450 health.

Opps I'm sorry, did you have an argument? Don't see one, and hence I guess you're a friend of Frank the Butter Knife another person who makes wild claims and can't back them up with facts or logic. Perhaps you two should work for Turbine software development? Capice?

B.

[Paraduck]

> Firstly, It's a gimp spell used mainly to kill people using a portal.

If it 's not this, players will be complainaing about being ganked by melees on speed coming out of a portal. This complaint is about as old as the game itself. Get over it already!

> Secondi, No spell should one hit anyone, especially a full health character at some 450 health.

So it's OK for a melee or archer to one hit someone then?

You're also not taking into account the fact that timing plays a big part here and if you're not coming out of a portal, the spell is easy to avoid if you're paying attention. Should a flashing red and yellow marquee be added when someone is casting this spell?

> Opps I'm sorry, did you have an argument? Don't see one, and hence I guess you're a friend of Frank the Butter Knife another person who makes wild claims and can't back them up with facts or logic. Perhaps you two should work for Turbine software development? Capice?

At least I don't have to try to belittle forum posters in order to get my point across. :)

[Thadda Al-Munik]

Paraduck, for DT it is broken. For white servers, anything PvP is only lightly taken.

[Frank The Knife]

Interesting Post by berzerk.

I'd like to see some mage love, and definitely nothing so stupid as Raven Fury. That had to one the biggest goofs we've had in for years.


Don't worry berzerk is busy looking for the 6 years of mage nerfs he cries about every other post.

[ChildoftheKoRn]

Interesting Post by berzerk.




Don't worry berzerk is busy looking for the 6 years of mage nerfs he cries about every other post.


You know frank berzerk was right when he brought this up

hence I guess you're a friend of Frank the Butter Knife another person who makes wild claims and can't back them up with facts or logic.

Cause i mean how stupid does one have to be to not see the decline in mages since release? I mean look at how much they got owned while melees/archers had the most damage, did you see melees getting any fizzles while casting cause they cant stay w/in the borders of their casting lines? I mean jesus its not like melees had to stop attacking in order to dodge projectiles losing DOT for the advantage of not taking damage. And look at all their overpowered weapons. They get max tinked armor with all the health they want and every defense that they want only having to put a moderate amount of exp into whil egetting th emost benefits out of them with their Dodging abilities while being able to attack (projectiles) and their melee d items as well as their wards. And the aegis, it helps everyone out and its not like you have to give up any offensive capabilities in order to get that max outta that 100/10/10/10/100/100 is an uber melee you n00b.

and I mean cmon the v wand only lasted what? 4-6 months? Jesus every time the weeping waepons got buffed up they lasted almost 2 months!!!!!!!! How do explain that?? Or how about when melees were able to debuff breastplates, they definately owned then right? And look how long that lasted!! we had to wait till the next patch!

Really frank you should sharpen your senses and really take a good look at whats goin on. Mages suck and its not like we have any exploitation of the system to be able to cast spells faster move while casting or have any benefits while losing any type of offensive/defensive power. I mean everyone can have max health and the most defenses you n00b!!!

[Frank The Knife]

Its my guess that next patch CB on melee weapons will get a nerf.

[robthehand]

there is no problem with raven fury on DT, it allows single players to fight multiple melees at once and if your crying about dieing at a drop on DT i'm guessing that you havent been playing on DT very long. When DT was at a high population you were almost certain to get ganked at least once portaling in to AE, AL, sith, AB ls. It was the way it was and it added danger to the game.

I feel raven fury is a adequete replacement for dwindling numbers to properly camp a portal drop.

[Paraduck]

Its my guess that next patch CB on melee weapons will get a nerf.IMO, nothing needs nerfing. And we sure as hell don't need MORE Prismatic GSx.

[ChildoftheKoRn]

The only problem i have with ravens fury is how sometimes i get locked onto a player. I have no clue if anyone else has this prob but i'll be attackign then when i try to back off o reven jump my guy will be litteraly locked into position he'll look like hes jumping/stepping back but hes not lifting off the ground or moving back at all basicaly leaving me to die. Otherwise unless combo's with Melee d wands it basicaly leaves the mage fair game. But i still find it retarded to have a 1 HIT spell in the game, although can be used by any class.

[Sensay-Ssj]

Thats called a rubberband cast bud, You cant break off its an incredibly cheap cast that only skilled mages can do. Its far worst then breaking animation. Ive seen Pound It do it. And ive experienced it first hand. I couldnt break off i had to jump back at the price of 200 stamina.



P.S frank I hope your post about your crappy armor was a joke... 28 Credits? Tell me when I start to care.

[Frank The Knife]

Yeah I was goof'in.

[ChildoftheKoRn]

Thats called a rubberband cast bud, You cant break off its an incredibly cheap cast that only skilled mages can do. Its far worst then breaking animation. Ive seen Pound It do it. And ive experienced it first hand. I couldnt break off i had to jump back at the price of 200 stamina.



P.S frank I hope your post about your crappy armor was a joke... 28 Credits? Tell me when I start to care.

usually rubberbanding only happens to me if i try to charge up the attack before actually attacking even trying to jump away wouldnt work *shrug*

[Berzerk]

Interesting Post by berzerk.




Wow! Frank learned to read! I'm amazed!

B

[ChildoftheKoRn]

Wow! Frank learned to read! I'm amazed!

B

I do believe sarcasm was the biggest factor in franks post :-P

[Dark Tide Guy]

Paraduck, come play DT.

You clearly know nothing about the silliness of this spell.

There is no melee, war or missile that will oneshot a well-equipped and buffed level 200+ crit or otherwise.

Name one and prove me wrong.

If you can't, then please stop commenting.

Thanks.

[Thadda Al-Munik]

What baffles me about this spells is what good is it for? No mage in their right mind is going to use this spell on monsters en masse. Not only do you lose half health, but you aggro them and you'll die. This spell is only pk useful only. And it's so useful, people can just cast that and win, one shot

I cannot fathom why Turbine introduced this retarded spell, and still claim they are taking strides to improve PvP. Yes, weapons were vastly upgraded, but the spell needs to be taken out PERIOD. What use is this going to have? The spell will be used until Turbine nerfs it. Turbine is probably waiting it out until the spell doesn't get used much, but they're wrong.

[ChildoftheKoRn]

well so far i've died maybe 2 times to this spell. Once I just returned to dt didnt know the name of it yet. And when it was cast i thought hey, ravens fury, welcome back to me!

Second time it was in a closed area while i was fighting olthoi a person used it w/o us noticing he was in blocked us in against the olthoi and owned us both. I thought hmmm round 2. So far all the other times i've been able to get away, whats your guys's excuse?


BUt I do agree that it shouldnt 1 hit although it is ez to get away from and can actaully give the advantage to the other players if htey know how to manage it right. So far I was able to get a kill from that cause the mage was stupid as hell.

[Monster]

If my opponent wants to use a spell that puts them at half health then I let them. It's really not a good idea, especially with the upgraded damage. I'll get in acouple good swings before they get it off and acouple good swings in before they can heal up, this leaves alot of opportunity to kill them. Portalling into drops you can just jump over it.

Some of you forget it costs 50% hp, is slow to cast, has limited range, and only rarely one shots now (with crits). Unless you freak out and run into them all.

[Dark Tide Guy]

So, Monster and Korn, we are to understand that either neither of you play melees, and/or never, ever experience lag whatsoever?

[ChildoftheKoRn]

im full time melee and sure do experience lag. But its not like everyone experiences lag every time someone casts raven, did i ever say if you experience lag and die to teh fury your a n00b? No but your not getting any sympathy for it.

I'll get in acouple good swings before they get it off and acouple good swings in before they can heal up, this leaves alot of opportunity to kill them.

Some of you forget it costs 50% hp, is slow to cast, has limited range, and only rarely one shots now (with crits). Unless you freak out and run into them all.

Wow sounds like monsters mage has some good swings in it!!

[Berzerk]

The lag is inherent to a poor network and application design by the turbanic crew. Do you get it? Titanic.. Turbanic.. What good are puns when you have to tell everyone?

Given that everything is getting farmed out to 3rd world coders of with no quality or skill, there's very little chance of an excellent game ever coming out unless someone actually does it as a labor of love.

B.

[robthehand]

theres 3rd world coders now? Wow they have really steped up since the days when all they made was nike sneakers.

[isbreath]

there is absolutely no reason to be killed coming out of a portal with tugak. just jump while you are in portal space....you'll miss it everytime.

not that i like the spell...or agree with it..... i think its the most skilless tactic ive even seen used....and its legal!

i will never profess to be a l33t pvper....... but its much easier to handle a loss because your more skilled than i am.

dodging the tugak takes a little skill....... but really..... how much skill is involved in casting it? jeez.

[Perforation]

no melee ability such as ar or cb needs to be nerfed, unquestionably, the dot for mages IS still much more than that of melees. i havent seen ravens fury used as much because of the increase in war damage, well all damage for that matter, cause mages werent the only ones rollin aournd 'tugak quati' all day. with this new patch, a melee/archer once again has a chance, and the amount of credits you put into your attac skill is still reflected, and dont try to argure cause the mage can land two wars and kill me, and with a mage usin cb would be a one hit kill with crit. evn if a melee can ccrit you for 400+? (ive only heard of this occuring, never witnessed) the other non-crit swings are just like the old joke damage, so yo mages just stam 2 health and shoot one of your wars, that O YA DOES MORE DAMAGE then Any other class and force the melee to back off. O and maybe people should consider that maybe not EVERY non mage char is bow sword or ua. should these be the only non-war skills that can compete?? im spear and ive never seent he kind of damage ive heard sword swingers talk abotu after last patch. so nerf melee so once again the only melee skill worht trainin is sword again. damn make the rest of your skills playable. i dont see how everyone on dt is happier with only being able to play sword or mage ( ua/'sword/mage/bow after last patch). i actually have been truly enjoying what i remember about ac pvp since this patch. every since i retruned i jsut though about unsub cause as a non-sword melee you couldnt do crap, even as sword, you couldnt do crap. and because of this. 110% of dt players played mages. and the only melees i saw were chars being lvled or mules. never pvp. now all classes can participate sorry mages you might die get the f over it

[Dark Tide Guy]

Anyone who says that this spell is easy to dodge or jump at a drop either doesnt PvP very much or is just a total noob.

More than 10x I have portaled in somewhere, jumped and was oneshotted by this ridiculous spell. Corpse floating in the air. So... The game recognized that I was jumping, but allowed the spell to kill me in midair. Right?

Right.

[ChildoftheKoRn]

Perf, 110% of the server is not mages hell me and my friends are archer/meleee, EXTREME MELEES at that.

And people dont tugak as much cause we can do more dmage which leaves their half health OUCHIES.

Usually you'll hear the mages ***** about only doing 80-100 damage to grief melees that have maxed out magic d. So they assume all melees get hit liek that. They finaly understand the concept of sacrifice for gains. just think if they had to sacrifice melee d wands rofl

[Perforation]

yes i am guilty of exaggeration, but before the latest patch most people were only playing mages. those that did have melees dint use them much cause they wre only good in groups. and i dunno whether you were misunderstanding me but i agreed with you on the tugak, this latest patch allows for much smarter ways to do damage then to suicide like that. and on the other stuff, i agree with you too, not every melee has max resist or health. also i hope more non 100 endurance chars start popping up, i think increasing dot across board made endurance worth less, increase damage makes each point not worth as much. lol i think i said the same think twice in same sentence. about being killed by tugak at drop, everytime im in portal i can lredy hear them tugakin while im loading, just hit Q while in portal your guy will run immediately, that would be a hell of a dice roll if they hti you. i havent been killed by tugak alone in manya day

[ChildoftheKoRn]

Lol I recently got killed in a tunnel enclosed dungeon, was my own fault though i still have a hard time thinking quati means the slash which makes sit and think about it ahhahah.

[isbreath]

man...i play on dt ...i have no choice but to be involved in pvp...whether i want to be or not:)

tugak has never killed me when i jump while still in portal space..... and at least 10 times a playing session i have the opportunity to test it out. altho..there is always that random occurance of wtf in every aspect of ac:)

i will say..dungeons are the most horrible place in the world to try and dodge tugak. the range factor must get skewed inside...... cuz it seems no matter how far away i get from the caster... im getting hit. period.

[Hectorb911]

What baffles me about this spells is what good is it for? No mage in their right mind is going to use this spell on monsters en masse. Not only do you lose half health, but you aggro them and you'll die. This spell is only pk useful only. And it's so useful, people can just cast that and win, one shot

I cannot fathom why Turbine introduced this retarded spell, and still claim they are taking strides to improve PvP. Yes, weapons were vastly upgraded, but the spell needs to be taken out PERIOD. What use is this going to have? The spell will be used until Turbine nerfs it. Turbine is probably waiting it out until the spell doesn't get used much, but they're wrong.

I have killed my first and only Black breath with this spell. The only way I could ever hope to have done it as my weapons were just useless against its regen.

Even the martyr spells couldnt harm it fast enough for it to regen, most i got it down to that way was about 78% before it popped back to 100%.


Maybe it should be nerfed against players but leave it be against monsters.

[Thadda Al-Munik]

What level are you? I owned all black breaths that I fought and I'm only 137, 136 at the time. I used a crushing blow fire axe, which didn't even get to crit. I vulned and imped it, making it rather easy to kill.

[Berzerk]

yes i am guilty of exaggeration

That's a nice way to say lying.

B.

[ChildoftheKoRn]

And what was he lying about.

[Berzerk]

Does it matter? Nothing said here really has an effect. Once you learn that and accept the game is flawed you'll be alot happier.

B.

[ChildoftheKoRn]

Wow dude, good thing you banned or else i'd have to tell you start listening to other peoples post cause clearly you were just tryin to portray the fact you want to read your own post on someone else (When you said I only wanted to read my own posts) cause frankly for what feels like a millenia i've been saying how the coding is flawed and the bugs and what not. And clearly your the only one people arent listening to, read up on peoples post last few days partaining to what you say, see how many agree with you. so far i've seen maybe 1 or 2. Compare and contrast my friend.

BTW punctuation doesnt have an affect on percieving.

[Dread_Og]

I love the spell. Not because I use it, but because I like capping noobs right after they cast it.

this is what should happen after somebody uses it:

http://img60.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot001151kv.jpg

[Uwe]

I love the spell. Not because I use it, but because I like capping noobs right after they cast it.

this is what should happen after somebody uses it:

http://img60.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot001151kv.jpg

Yup.. it can get you killed. Most peeps use it camping at a drop. It's a cheap shot and can take out anyone if the timing is right. IMHO it's a kind of dumb spell.

Uwe

[ChildoftheKoRn]

Yup.. it can get you killed. Most peeps use it camping at a drop. It's a cheap shot and can take out anyone if the timing is right. IMHO it's a kind of dumb spell.

Uwe

Fairly ez to dodge, IF THERES NO LAG AND YOU DONT GET BUGGED, otherwise if you can deal enough damage their basicaly screwed if htey miss.

[Sizz-Lorr!]

all you have to do to avoid it is pay attention. when you portal in to a tugak, do a full jump. unelss they have ppl stacked on top of one another you have a very high chance of being missed or getting hit once instead of multiple times.

[Uwe]

Fairly ez to dodge, IF THERES NO LAG AND YOU DONT GET BUGGED, otherwise if you can deal enough damage their basicaly screwed if htey miss.

Even a full jump doesn't always work.. It's just a bad idea.

Uwe

[max_evil]

ChildoftheKoRn,

they aren't screw in one spell they goto full health.

-max

[Kid]

I don't get why you guys are complaining about this spell. Like others said, it's an easy dodge unless your portaling in. Just deal with it.

[max_evil]

Kid,

you said "Just deal with it"

if thats your train of thought on everything we wouldn't need updates to AC ever. God mode, wand bug, machine gun bow and duping would you also say the same there? Just deal with it?

-max

[robthehand]

i like this spell dont change it. i like the fact that going to a hotspot theres a good chance u might die at the drop.

[Ftuoil_Xelrash]

Here is a fine example of a level 244 on-shotting a level 260 with this crappy Spell.


On-Shot Harley (http://www.circleofseven.com/gallery/Ftuoil_Xelrash/Harley-Quinn-1.jpg)



Over powered...

[max_evil]

robthehand,

awe rob saw you get ringed at drop, like just a day ago.

-max

[Kid]

Kid,

you said "Just deal with it"

if thats your train of thought on everything we wouldn't need updates to AC ever. God mode, wand bug, machine gun bow and duping would you also say the same there? Just deal with it?

-max

Erm that made very little sense or any connection to that quote. God mode, wand bug (???), machine gun bow, and duping is not what Turbine put in or intentionally put in. The Raven Fury spell is a spell and it is intentional for this damage and if it wasn't, Turbine would've made a comment and a proposed fix.

Comparing god mode and other misc. exploits to a spell is stupid.

[max_evil]

Kid,

i ment to say something related to being one hit by things.
but i went off on a tangent when i said god mode and duping.

lol

-max

[Dark Tide Guy]

The silence from the AC Staff on this issue is deafening.

[Ftuoil_Xelrash]

The silence from the AC Staff on this issue is deafening.


It's the typical mode of execution. Hell it took how many months to get them to fix the jacked up acid damage caused by a bad fellowship spell???

About a year.

[Kid]

yeah! I damn the person who banned Wee-Rugged! He spoke the truth.