I never realized

[Thadda Al-Munik]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turbine_Inc

History of low pay? Ouch. DDO flopping hurts them a lot. I guess AC is where it's at :D

[Zenato]

Boy that is really flattering...

... not to worry Turbine we still love AC.

[Thadda Al-Munik]

Ac has been good to Turbine

[Yula_the_Mighty]

DDO is doing very well. As far a low pay - look no further than Electronic Arts. Electronic Arts are by all accounts the lowest paying development house. In addition, they do not pay overtime for more than 40 hours a week and require lots of this 'free overtime'.

Rumor has it that everybody with any skill wants to develop games. The devs supposely write game for love, fun and pleasure and not for the money. Apparentl, a lot of the gaming developing houses take advantage of this by not paying very well, requiring lots of hours and tell their staff their replaceable because folks are beating on the door for a chance to break into the gaming industry.

[MaddyFF]

History of low pay? Ouch. DDO flopping hurts them a lot. I guess AC is where it's at :D

You believe everything you read on Wikipedia? Looks like the comment about low pay has been removed though.

Going through the history (great thing about Wiki's) it seemed obvious to me those comments were from someone with a grudge against Turbine.

[Zenato]

Wow from the looks of it EVERYTHING negative about Turbine has been removed and right quick. Well we at least know the legal team at Turbine is alive and kicking :p

[Arch Magi]

Wow from the looks of it EVERYTHING negative about Turbine has been removed and right quick. Well we at least know the legal team at Turbine is alive and kicking :p

Funny how that happens.

Still changes nothing. Everyone knows it.

[MaddyFF]

Wow from the looks of it EVERYTHING negative about Turbine has been removed and right quick. Well we at least know the legal team at Turbine is alive and kicking :p

Nor like Wikipedia's editors cleaning things up. They have been trying to deal with obvious biased submissions for a while none.

[Thadda Al-Munik]

Well, it DID say it, lol. If that were to be true, then my hat goes off to these devs.

[Gustaive]

Wikipedia. I could add some crap right now. There's been several articles in the Sun Sentinel about how full of BS that site is. Now certain info come from references and that's one thing.

Having things like "Oh there's a rumor they have low paying employees! There's a rumor that Atari want's to terminate their relationship. There's rumors I shoot lightning bolts out of my butt." with no back up is just spank material for the slam boys to fap to.

[Thadda Al-Munik]

Well, now I know why Wikipedia is crap. I never really used it anyway.

[Protes]

Wikipedia. I could add some crap right now. There's been several articles in the Sun Sentinel about how full of BS that site is. Now certain info come from references and that's one thing.I like Wikipedia. I find it comes in handy for searching some info on Wiki easier than using a search engine.

[Yula_the_Mighty]

I like Wikipedia. I find it comes in handy for searching some info on Wiki easier than using a search engine.
So do I. You just have to be aware of what kind of information you are looking for. It is great for finding out how things work, how to solve various math, chemistry, engineering problems, and so on.

When you move to information associated with public figures and companies, you got to be real careful about what you read. You find some glowing or bad references about a company like Turbine or a US senator. You really need to start looking to see if there some reputable support for that information elsewhere. Otherwise, it just creation out of thin air.

I mentioned Electronic Arts in relation to low pay. I have no idea what the truth of situation with EA is. However, when a company so aggravates one of more of their employees to where the dispute rolls into the American court system and becomes news - something serious has gone wrong.

Software developers are not the kind of folks that go making public waves. We normally keep our complaints close our chest. It is very bad for your career to get a reputation of being a troublemaker. Companies do not like to hire devs that go public with their complaints.

Of course this the chessy part of putting incorrect information into Wikipedia. There is no consequeneces... You can just go rogue or griefing and not have to worry about anything.

[Arch Magi]

True, but it's not like you have to be public with your alias.

Game designers as a whole are pretty low paid people. Sure some of them, lead designers and the like, make some nice scratch, but by and large, they make squat comparatively to other computer geeks.

[Thadda Al-Munik]

Lol. type failure in google and hit "im feeling lucky"

[MaddyFF]

So do I. You just have to be aware of what kind of information you are looking for. It is great for finding out how things work, how to solve various math, chemistry, engineering problems, and so on.

Exactly Yula. Things of technical nature tend to be very good, but other stuff you have to be careful.