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Geneva
07-09-2007, 06:07 PM
The winner of TD did not use 3 rares in the finals (unless they used them before the finals even started).

Maybe the winner will explain to you why/how they won so quickly. ;)

TDs winner used 3 rares and took out his opponent in less than a minute. As for during the other 2 rounds, I can't be certain. It didn't seem to be too extreme, but then again I only lasted about 2 minutes :D

Ruhelos
07-09-2007, 06:21 PM
The winner of TD did not use 3 rares in the finals (unless they used them before the finals even started).

Maybe the winner will explain to you why/how they won so quickly.

*cough* Thats just...what I heard anyway......................*whistles*:rolleyes:

Coped
07-09-2007, 07:42 PM
I'm curious, now that the competition is over, how big a factor WAS the rare use?

If you didn't use rares, you had no chance of winning.

From what I've heard, the people who got to the finals had used rares previously and/or in the finals.

It's why I didn't register. I refuse to support such a dumb decision.

Geneva
07-09-2007, 08:02 PM
Don't believe everything you hear.

If you didn't use rares, you had no chance of winning.

From what I've heard, the people who got to the finals had used rares previously and/or in the finals.

It's why I didn't register. I refuse to support such a dumb decision.

Kilandros
07-09-2007, 08:17 PM
If you didn't use rares, you had no chance of winning.

From what I've heard, the people who got to the finals had used rares previously and/or in the finals.

It's why I didn't register. I refuse to support such a dumb decision.


I didn't use a single rare and I won.

Coped
07-09-2007, 10:12 PM
I didn't use a single rare and I won.

Cool, congrats then. Like I said, I am speaking from what I've heard...

Still, altho I regret registering, I do wanna stand by my choice of not agreeing with rare use.

Geneva
07-09-2007, 10:34 PM
Congratulations to Falfurrious for winning the PKL Tournament on VT!

Geneva
07-10-2007, 05:15 PM
You regret registering? You are not registered from what I can tell Coped.

Cool, congrats then. Like I said, I am speaking from what I've heard...

Still, altho I regret registering, I do wanna stand by my choice of not agreeing with rare use.

Coped
07-10-2007, 11:01 PM
You regret registering? You are not registered from what I can tell Coped.

Sorry, misspoke... or typed... I meant I regret not registering. However, I said to myself that I realy didn't want rares and stood by that. Just hoping because of people like me that rares won't be allowed next time around (hoping there is anext time).

Geneva
07-10-2007, 11:45 PM
Congratulations to Bone King's Sword for winning the PKL Tournament on Wintersebb!

caemlyn
07-11-2007, 10:10 AM
death himself will not be able to attend due to rl comminments

Kalazar22
07-11-2007, 01:10 PM
If you didn't use rares, you had no chance of winning.

From what I've heard, the people who got to the finals had used rares previously and/or in the finals.

It's why I didn't register. I refuse to support such a dumb decision.


I used one rare in toruny the very finaly round (the guy used magicD rare). I won, rares were not a HUGE aspect.

Edit:I faught and killed an axer with a CS axe that had a bloodrinker rare on it. It was me vs him in one of the FFA's and I accidentally popped a missileD rare :D.

Isleguard
07-11-2007, 06:32 PM
Explicit II
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Darktide

bobth
07-11-2007, 09:32 PM
Bobth
Darktide
Level 20

caemlyn
07-11-2007, 10:14 PM
death himself probly will be able to attend the tourney looks liek plans might have been changed

Geneva
07-11-2007, 11:54 PM
Congratulations to Pepa of the B O L P for winning the PK Tournament on Darktide!

Cynk1
07-12-2007, 07:37 PM
The winner of TD did not use 3 rares in the finals (unless they used them before the finals even started).

Maybe the winner will explain to you why/how they won so quickly. ;)

all the rares i used were givin so yeah

i popped a str rare 5 mins before tourn started...than a magic d rare 2 mins before tourn started..1 min into the fight i popped a coord rare and used pantom UA that was hitting him for 30s on speed and around 60s crits and killed cromson's mage in under 1 minute... was a gf (i'm a mage btw)

Geneva
07-12-2007, 09:59 PM
Congratulations to Mage number two for winning the PKL Tournament on Morningthaw!

immortalbob
07-12-2007, 10:08 PM
Tour·na·ment /ˈtʊərnəmənt, ˈtɜr-/ Pronunciation[toor-nuh-muhnt, tur-] –noun
1. a trial of skill in some game, in which competitors play a series of contests: a chess tournament.
2. a meeting for contests in a variety of sports, as between teams of different nations.


:)

Geneva
07-12-2007, 10:35 PM
The plan was to have two rounds, where the winner of each round would face off in the finals for the Championship. 5 minutes before the event started there were only two of the registered people on. I didn't want a "duel" for the event, so I opened up registration on CG to get more participants.

The reason I didn't do 1 vs 1 duels is because it would take hours to complete an event on just one server. Would you really want to wait 3 hours before your first match even started? And if you won, would you then want to wait again until your next match was up?

I think that these events went really well and the majority of the feedback I got was positive. I'm sorry if you did not enjoy them or think that they could have been run better. We will be discussing the results of these events and I may or may not be holding another PKL/PK type event in the future.

If you have suggestions or feedback on what you liked or did not like about the event, please post them in these forums, that's what they are here for.

immortalbob
07-12-2007, 10:35 PM
what happened to our second round, and championship match then?

Timber Wulf
07-12-2007, 10:47 PM
Bob, why so much hate for me now? because i thought ahead and asked if teams where aloud? if you would have asked if you wanted to team, i would have been more then happy to say yes and you know that..so no reason to hate me..really..

immortalbob
07-12-2007, 10:50 PM
I just figured someone i was fairly friendly with wouldn't team against me in a "Free for all"

but whatever

Geneva
07-12-2007, 10:53 PM
The event was altered when I saw that only 2 of the 15 registered contestants were online. I mentioned this in CG that I was going to open registration and it would be a one round battle to the death. Unfortunately this was before you had logged in Bob so I can see how it caught you off-guard, I apologize for that.

Timber Wulf
07-12-2007, 11:02 PM
like i said Bob, i did not start the team, i did ask because it was going to be me and Evil mage togeasther..but people started asking me to team with them, so i took first offer, and btw, the first 2 kills where 2 of my team SO is was me and evil..and you could have taken eather one of us out eather if yeni wasnt on you also..i hope we can still be good, really do bob

immortalbob
07-12-2007, 11:07 PM
like i said Bob, i did not start the team, i did ask because it was going to be me and Evil mage togeasther..but people started asking me to team with them, so i took first offer, and btw, the first 2 kills where 2 of my team SO is was me and evil..and you could have taken eather one of us out eather if yeni wasnt on you also..i hope we can still be good, really do bob

Mage Number Two
Yeni Ibn Sol
Cope
The Evil Mage


4 on me, as i said, i didn't expect it from you, you got me! Boy am i a sucker...

Timber Wulf
07-12-2007, 11:10 PM
you would have done the same.. if not..i'm sorry, i didnt see yeni untill after you died (and no i'm not lying) he was hiding in corner, he scared me when he started casting spells at me

TheKnight
07-13-2007, 01:43 AM
Geneva,

First I just want to say a big thank you for running this event, it was quite a bit of fun. I hope you don't stop running them, due to a few issues.
Now with that said, here's some suggestions for next time:

I. Do not allow rare use.
II. Keep the same format as used before, just let people know in advance that it's a group fight free for all etc.

And for possible future tournaments, I'd like to make this suggestion.

Make a PK Colosseum Area, complete with NPC. How it would work is as follows:

A. There would be 5 locations inside the PK Colosseum, with an NPC outside.
B. Players pay the NPC 5MMD notes to get a ticket to get inside.
C. After 9 players are inside an area, the area is closed off to other players.
D. The last person left in this area is declared the winner.
E. The winner talks to the NPC to claim their prize. Prize would be:

I. XP, and a special PK Colosseum Ring Set similar to Colosseum.
II. Special currency is given to the player that is redeemable only at the PK Colosseum that is specific to PK Play. (Random amount of currency)
III. A special numbered ticket is given to the players who come out of the PK Colosseum standing. (Attuned/Bonded)
III. When you run the live event, the players present these tickets to be placed into the proper brackets for the tournament.
IV. Once placed, the players are summoned to an outside Roman Colosseum type arena where the tournament begins.
V. The last person standing at the end, wins the prizes.

This would be a PK/L Colosseum, open to everyone. If your red, you get the added bonus of looting those people you killed. If your pink, well you get to keep your stuff. ;)

And as an added bonus to red players, there would be boss rooms in this also.
They would be restricted to red players only, and the bosses you fight would be the following in no particular order:

Aerfalle's Undead Minions
Gaerlan's Elementals
Asheron's Golems
Martine's Hollow Minions
Nuhmudira's Scalavus
Olthoi Queen's Olthoi
Count Dardante's Viamont Troops
Grael's Mukkir

Rewards for beating all of this in an hour would be as follows:

I. Special PK Only Ring Set (Made specifically for PK fights)
II. XP similar to Colosseum's
III. PK Titles
IV. Trophies, that when hooked on house hooks, cast special PK specific beneficial spells.
V. Special appearance by BZ/BZ's Aspect if you complete it, complete with a unique title.

Thoughts?

Regards

Timber Wulf
07-13-2007, 02:03 AM
Theknight, i like that plan..kinda alot of planning there IF they ever do i..would take awhile, but yea, i'd go red for it

Frank The Knife
07-13-2007, 09:25 AM
I had the idea of /telling Bob to team with me and I didnt because I didnt think it would have been a fair fight.

doom on me.

Coped
07-13-2007, 12:31 PM
Curious... Geneva, you said it'd be hard to do 1v1 tourny cuz it'd take so long.

However, what if you had a bunch of arena set up for this? Just empty rooms of some sort. Say 25...

20 people dueled in 10 of the rooms, then portals are opened in them for the winners. They go on to be portaled to (when they clck a door or something that spawns) another room with a PK. Then it happens again and so on.

You'd need like 25 rooms let's say. Then if more people join you can do the tourny thing in two chunks and have winners face off.

I dunno, just an idea since a 1v1 tourny, aside from taking longer than one big free for all, sounds like fun.

Kilandros
07-13-2007, 02:38 PM
Mage Number Two
Yeni Ibn Sol
Cope
The Evil Mage


4 on me, as i said, i didn't expect it from you, you got me! Boy am i a sucker...

Dude it was a PKL Tournament--people are going to try and kill you. That's the whole point.

immortalbob
07-13-2007, 09:55 PM
Dude it was a PKL Tournament--people are going to try and kill you. That's the whole point.


he had other people to choose :)

I know they all went after me because i was the threat, lol

Itablie
07-14-2007, 11:21 AM
Geneva,

First I just want to say a big thank you for running this event, it was quite a bit of fun. I hope you don't stop running them, due to a few issues.
Now with that said, here's some suggestions for next time:

I. Do not allow rare use.
II. Keep the same format as used before, just let people know in advance that it's a group fight free for all etc.

And for possible future tournaments, I'd like to make this suggestion.

Make a PK Colosseum Area, complete with NPC. How it would work is as follows:

A. There would be 5 locations inside the PK Colosseum, with an NPC outside.
B. Players pay the NPC 5MMD notes to get a ticket to get inside.
C. After 9 players are inside an area, the area is closed off to other players.
D. The last person left in this area is declared the winner.
E. The winner talks to the NPC to claim their prize. Prize would be:

I. XP, and a special PK Colosseum Ring Set similar to Colosseum.
II. Special currency is given to the player that is redeemable only at the PK Colosseum that is specific to PK Play. (Random amount of currency)
III. A special numbered ticket is given to the players who come out of the PK Colosseum standing. (Attuned/Bonded)
III. When you run the live event, the players present these tickets to be placed into the proper brackets for the tournament.
IV. Once placed, the players are summoned to an outside Roman Colosseum type arena where the tournament begins.
V. The last person standing at the end, wins the prizes.

This would be a PK/L Colosseum, open to everyone. If your red, you get the added bonus of looting those people you killed. If your pink, well you get to keep your stuff. ;)

And as an added bonus to red players, there would be boss rooms in this also.
They would be restricted to red players only, and the bosses you fight would be the following in no particular order:

Aerfalle's Undead Minions
Gaerlan's Elementals
Asheron's Golems
Martine's Hollow Minions
Nuhmudira's Scalavus
Olthoi Queen's Olthoi
Count Dardante's Viamont Troops
Grael's Mukkir

Rewards for beating all of this in an hour would be as follows:

I. Special PK Only Ring Set (Made specifically for PK fights)
II. XP similar to Colosseum's
III. PK Titles
IV. Trophies, that when hooked on house hooks, cast special PK specific beneficial spells.
V. Special appearance by BZ/BZ's Aspect if you complete it, complete with a unique title.

Thoughts?

Regards


Biggest flaw in that is 9 people would go in and plan the 1 winner. Repeat, and for 40 MMD's you can be the winner of the PK Colo

Claude-Kenni
07-17-2007, 12:01 AM
Just make no rares and spend more than 30 seconds building the dungeon in AC Editor or whatever you guys use next time.

Small, box room? Melee paradise.

Geneva
07-17-2007, 04:37 PM
The dungeon I chose for the event was created many, many moons ago for Live Events. I decided to use that room because I didn't want a huge area that would allow players to run around for ages. I wanted players to be thrown right into the fray and get to killing.

I woudn't call it a "melee paradise" by any means, but thanks for the feedback.

Oh and rares being used for any future events like this is still being discussed. We'll see what we can come up with.

Just make no rares and spend more than 30 seconds building the dungeon in AC Editor or whatever you guys use next time.

Small, box room? Melee paradise.

Multiplicity
07-17-2007, 06:09 PM
Of course you wouldn't call it a melee paradise, Geneva, sir, you don't PK.

Now, because there were no melees on WE when I participated, I'm not gonna whine any further about it being a melee paradise, but even so, you said in your original post, and I sort of quote: "have you ever run, ganked, blah blah, and blah blah blah..." Yes, you said running. Now, how can we run in such a small room, sir.

Oh well, I'm not mad, you did a good job, and it's only natural Bone King's sword would win. If there's a future one, mage only, I'll make sure I kill him so hard he never plays his mage again, on Tugak Quati or Multiplicity.

O WATE MULTIS STILL BANNED THX TO SPARKER, of course, how could I forget.

Chon of WE
07-17-2007, 06:11 PM
The dungeon I chose for the event was created many, many moons ago for Live Events. I decided to use that room because I didn't want a huge area that would allow players to run around for ages. I wanted players to be thrown right into the fray and get to killing.



Geneva, What is in the tunnel behind the red statue?

Geneva
07-17-2007, 06:19 PM
Of course you wouldn't call it a melee paradise, Geneva, sir, you don't PK.


And how do you know this exactly?



Oh well, I'm not mad, you did a good job, and it's only natural Bone King's sword would win. If there's a future one, mage only, I'll make sure I kill him so hard he never plays his mage again, on Tugak Quati or Multiplicity.

O WATE MULTIS STILL BANNED THX TO SPARKER, of course, how could I forget


Somehow I think you should be thanking yourself for this, not the Envoy. :rolleyes: But this is neither the time nor the place for such things.

Geneva
07-17-2007, 06:24 PM
Geneva, What is in the tunnel behind the red statue?

Wow, I thought only one other person on any of the servers actually even noticed. Yes there was something behind the statue, it will remain a mystery to all but the player(s) that took notice during the event. :D

Kilandros
07-17-2007, 07:58 PM
Of course you wouldn't call it a melee paradise, Geneva, sir, you don't PK.

Now, because there were no melees on WE when I participated, I'm not gonna whine any further about it being a melee paradise, but even so, you said in your original post, and I sort of quote: "have you ever run, ganked, blah blah, and blah blah blah..." Yes, you said running. Now, how can we run in such a small room, sir.

Oh well, I'm not mad, you did a good job, and it's only natural Bone King's sword would win. If there's a future one, mage only, I'll make sure I kill him so hard he never plays his mage again, on Tugak Quati or Multiplicity.

O WATE MULTIS STILL BANNED THX TO SPARKER, of course, how could I forget.


Uh, you must not PK much if you think a small space is "melee paradise"

It's quite obvious to anyone that knows anything about PK that small spaces are bett for mages as it restricts a melees room to dodge.

but thanks for the lol?

Kilandros
07-17-2007, 08:00 PM
The dungeon was fine....my only pet peeve was that it was a big dark so you had to strain your eyes a bit.

Geneva
07-18-2007, 12:31 AM
Yea it was a bit dark in there, I wasn't able to raise the brightness in the room without doing considerable damage to the framerate unfortunately and I wanted it to be as lag-free as possible.

The dungeon was fine....my only pet peeve was that it was a big dark so you had to strain your eyes a bit.

Paraduck
07-18-2007, 01:23 AM
Just an idea regarding rares... I haven't really kept up with the discussion, so I apologize if this has been mentioned already.

I'm not sure how the spell tech works, but would it be possible to set it up like the following:

Admin portals participants to a staging area.
Admin spwans a NPC that erases all spells of the level that rares are and does not allow players entrance to the arena if they have a rare gem in their pack.

The downside is that players will have to remove their rares from their participating character prior to being able to enter the arena, which may be a bit more preparation work, and some will undoubtedly forget. Also, how do you prevent combat in the staging area?

Chon of WE
07-18-2007, 11:30 AM
Wow, I thought only one other person on any of the servers actually even noticed. Yes there was something behind the statue, it will remain a mystery to all but the player(s) that took notice during the event. :D

Since I noticed, could you tell me?
Right when the event started, I tried to slip past the statue but then Zero Night targeted me so I couldn't continue.

Multiplicity
07-18-2007, 05:46 PM
Since I noticed, could you tell me?
Right when the event started, I tried to slip past the statue but then Zero Night targeted me so I couldn't continue.


AHAHAH HEY THAT'S ME.

Yeah, I still have the crappy 1:30 video of you and Erushi war-raring just to kill me. Rest assured, if I had Multi, you'd all be dead.

And Geneva, that's what I always liked about you, your sense of humor, har har har, yes, I should thank myself for a ban that shouldn't have been, you're so right.

Kilandros, you play Leafcull, you have no opinion vs. me. Furthermore, you play an ARCHER...please, be quiet.

Also, archers are becoming imbalanced again. Mc Que of our server is so temped our he can 100% crit you each time for 140+. The plus side? He sucks so much at PK he never moves until the last second...can't slide...and doesn't even chug.

But, still, I hear Kilandros is all temp and skill. JUST A THOUGHT.

Chon of WE
07-18-2007, 06:10 PM
AHAHAH HEY THAT'S ME.

Yeah, I still have the crappy 1:30 video of you and Erushi war-raring just to kill me. Rest assured, if I had Multi, you'd all be dead.

And Geneva, that's what I always liked about you, your sense of humor, har har har, yes, I should thank myself for a ban that shouldn't have been, you're so right.

Kilandros, you play Leafcull, you have no opinion vs. me. Furthermore, you play an ARCHER...please, be quiet.

Also, archers are becoming imbalanced again. Mc Que of our server is so temped our he can 100% crit you each time for 140+. The plus side? He sucks so much at PK he never moves until the last second...can't slide...and doesn't even chug.

But, still, I hear Kilandros is all temp and skill. JUST A THOUGHT.


I didn't rare throughout the fight. It was probably Kris and Erushi that rared.
Post the video, I'd like to see it.

Kilandros
07-18-2007, 10:35 PM
But, still, I hear Kilandros is all temp and skill. JUST A THOUGHT.

That much is true. Temp + Skill is usually a good combination.

Midgar
07-19-2007, 01:12 AM
You know what he meant, Don't be a smart you know what :P

Anyways from the screenies the arena that players pvped in had more then enough space for a melee to dodge well. The only one who'd probably complain are the melees who go to the edge of the radar to heal because they suck at dodging.

Coped
07-19-2007, 07:21 PM
Critting for 140+ isn't temp... that means your armor is horrendous and you don't have frost ward. That's your fault.

Good armor + frost ward = 75 - 95 crits.

Most people I hit for 90 crits and 100 to 120 crits though.

If someone dies while critting for 140, even if it's just on single piece places, he *NAUGHTY WORD*. You should die if your armor is that bad.

Multiplicity
07-19-2007, 08:12 PM
lmao, Geneva, "NAUGHTY WORD"

I take it Coped is Mc Que. How did you like that severe arse-kicking me and Anima gave you? You're 100% resist, 0% skill, and that is why you got killed.

lawl, I sort of rhymed.

ANYWAY, one last think, Genny-va, please, don't worry about framerate, bork it up all you want! Put so many particle effects someone with a 32 MB graphics card crashes instantly!

Why? Because I have a nVidia GeForce 7600 GT (a bit old now but so worth its price), and the majority of AC players have crappy computers...namely Bone King...so, if you made a really FPS-laggy dungeon...I'd win by default!

Yes, do that!

Note: Something puzzles me, though. You remember that Bur live event a while ago? I still had Multiplicity then and I was there and apparently I was one of FEW people who got 2 FPS even at lowest possible settings.

Hmm...well, maybe I had texture up or something. THE POINT IS...most people would lag hardcore whereas I would not. So, don't worry about framerate sir. I am the most important and I should be thought of first.

Also, is Frelorn still sick? Well, when he gets back ask him to read his PMs, please, thank you.

Coped
07-20-2007, 05:52 PM
Huh? I'm not Mc Que...

Nor am I 100% resist and 0% skill. Thanks for assuming I was someone I'm not though. :) I actually have spec dagger/melee/bow and trained missile.

Still, if you consider CS 100% crits, you are crazy, though I like CS and you can get 3+ in a row often enough.

But 140? Like I siad, get frost ward and decent armor. If anyone hits you that hard on anything but single piece armor spots, you have horrendous armor... that simple. Even getting hit that hard in single piece spots means you are wearing something at best AL 600 buffed.

Midgar
07-22-2007, 01:37 PM
Huh? I'm not Mc Que...

Nor am I 100% resist and 0% skill. Thanks for assuming I was someone I'm not though. :) I actually have spec dagger/melee/bow and trained missile.

Still, if you consider CS 100% crits, you are crazy, though I like CS and you can get 3+ in a row often enough.

But 140? Like I siad, get frost ward and decent armor. If anyone hits you that hard on anything but single piece armor spots, you have horrendous armor... that simple. Even getting hit that hard in single piece spots means you are wearing something at best AL 600 buffed.

CB hits from a bow still hit 200ish, but yeah I agree that CS is better now on a bow. 140? Yeah, he must have terrible armor. Should be getting crit 100ish maybe by a CS Frost.

Kilandros
07-22-2007, 02:39 PM
Don't listen to Multiplicity--he's just bitter he didn't make it past the first round.

Sorry you couldn't handle more than 1 person targetting you. gf

Chon of WE
07-22-2007, 02:59 PM
Don't listen to Multiplicity--he's just bitter he didn't make it past the first round.

Sorry you couldn't handle more than 1 person targetting you. gf

Dude, during Multiplicity's round, he wasn't even the first target, he was the third. Before it started, someone said "lets kill zero last, let him run around thinking hes god like he always does."

Kilandros
07-22-2007, 04:09 PM
Dude, during Multiplicity's round, he wasn't even the first target, he was the third. Before it started, someone said "lets kill zero last, let him run around thinking hes god like he always does."

lol