Live Event Discussion/Proposition

[Colors]

Hello,

I just wanted to make a post about the lack of live event on the 9th Anniversary. I had started one back right around the 9th anniversary day expressing my disappointment in the lack of live events for that day, but I stopped because it was a little mean spirited, and I wanted to make a more constructive post after thinking things over.

I personally took it upon myself to run a "live" event on FF for those who were disappointed in the lack of event from the ninth anniversary. (Most everyone) All day long people were asking did it happen? Whens the Live event? Anyone hear anything? It was good to see the server alive.

I announced a Scavenger Hunt to be started in Yaraq at the meeting hall and that people should bring teams ready for a great time. I had a great number of responses. We had 3 teams of 4-5 people form in very sort time, and we started the event.

The event was simple. Go gather the items listed on the parchment handed to you and bring them back to us show them in the trade window and get a score. Each item was worth a specific amount.

The teams had a certain amount of time and had to have all team members back in the meeting hall by a certain time.

Small prizes were awarded to each team for their participation.

Everyone involved had a blast!

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Then the other day I was preparing to do another one of our events we have been doing for a while. Placing parchments on corpses around the landscape and having people find them like an Easter egg hunt. The members of the Frostfell Scheme team and myself had so much fun racking up vitae and hiding bodies around the world. But alas we can’t do this any more due to what I heard was a bug with people locking bodies on DT.
I was sad to see this, but understand it fixed a bug on another world. (Sorry if I don't have all the info on this)

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In conclusion, I wanted to make a suggestion to the live events team, and they can take from it what they want.

I have been around AC since the first days of it being live, and have enjoyed every minute of my time in the game and the friends I have made.

Some of my best moments were watching BZ and Asheron duke it out in Eastham, or watching Martine destroy a Subway full of people.

I also remember +LeOs and the events that they did. I even started what we called the Frostfell Scheme Team. An alliance of monarchs and people from the server who planned and ran "live" events to help keep AC alive. When the +LeOs went away.

My proposition to Turbine is this.

Allow people to apply however you feel is right to be able to help you run events. I am sure there are other like me who have been playing the game for years who would do this for FREE not asking anything from Turbine. Give us a gem that would spawn a mob of creatures once a week, give us the ability to place items on our corpse in the way of a scavenger hunt, give us items to hide that would not dissolve around the landscape. Give a few unique items or something we could use once a month to award a team. I do ask though that you allow us to provide events on our own servers, we know the players, and can serve them better. We would have to be unbiased and i know that would be hard for some, but we know our servers and that would make the events special. Allow US the players to help you keep the game alive.

Personally I lived for the days when the whole server would run to a town and a portal storm would happen because there were so many people interested in what was going on. I am not sure if we could ever get to this point again, but we can try.

I don’t mean to seem rude and repeat what others have said for a while now, but it should have made someone wake up when the posts were made about people re arranging their days, and taking time off of work to be a part of the "special fun". People still love live events, and this shows it.

This is something that sets AC apart from other MMOs. The fact that there were and still are (however few and far between) live DEV or PLAYER controlled events.

Thanks for Reading and look forward to some response.

Wayne Moulton

Colors of FF

[tika]

colors does have a point. its not just the 9th anniversary fiasco its all things. we as a community love the live events. if turbine is not willing to or able to dedicate the man power then if at all possible there should be sentinel type players that can. on ff we do what we can to keep the player base involved. we do server wides, and scavenger hunts, contests, ect. even as we speak we have 12 days of questing going on(something we do every year since sprawl started it years ago and now im running)
http://vnboards.ign.com/frostfell/b5153/109416385/p1/?42
the community enjoys it and anticiaptes it even.

i know there are a lot of players that would jump at the chance to help make this game more involved. let us help turbine..

lisa s
aka tika waylen of frostfell

[alisonhorne]

Absolutly agree with the above stated. Who doesn't love Live events and things that are different from the day to day hunting and questing?


Alison
aka Aerish II

[Colors]

^ Bump Any ideas or comments on this?

[jaclin_ff]

I saw a email from City of Heros where they can now have user created content. I am sure that isn't viable in AC but anything like what colors is proposing I am sure would help the world of Dereth. Think of it as Dereth's version of a wiki. Give some things to players to create in some little way. Unfortunatly the downside is that people will probably try to use this as an exploit as we have seen so often in the recent past.

[self_adhesive]

They need to divorce Live Events from Exclusive content at the very least.

If they aren't willing to do that, then they either need to end Live Events altogether or actually get their act together and schedule these with MANY repeat occurrences.

[An Adventurer]

They need to divorce Live Events from Exclusive content at the very least.

I disagree. Unique live events have always been used to advance the story line and I think in many cases they work much better and are much more appropriate than a standard quest or lore article on the web.

Live events are by nature exclusive content, even if the rewards are not. Some people are going to miss out on them. That doesn't mean they should be removed as a tool for providing entertainment and advancing the story.

[self_adhesive]

I disagree. Unique live events have always been used to advance the story line and I think in many cases they work much better and are much more appropriate than a standard quest or lore article on the web.

Live events are by nature exclusive content, even if the rewards are not. Some people are going to miss out on them. That doesn't mean they should be removed as a tool for providing entertainment and advancing the story.

Oh, I should have been more clear.

I meant Exclusive Rewards.

The only way to prevent live events from being non-exlusive would be to run them 24-7, 365. That is obviously not possible.

In most cases, they get it 'right' by allowing an alternate way to achieve the rewards a month or two after the lore based live event.

What I disagree with is putting something in the game that can only be gained through a live event. There should always be some way for a player to access content. The pyramids by the summoning of T'thuun area are a great example.

[An Adventurer]

exclusive rewards have been a part of the game forever. Some are first time quest completion, some timed events, some are live event. Nexus armor, fen/caul/shen soul crystal shard equipment, BZ helms and staves, and so on. There were probably hundreds of unique titles back when titles could be generated on the spot and +LEOs were still around, and there are still plenty of unique titles and items these days.

Why is it bad that some players have unique rewards for participating in first runs of epic quests or special live events? I mean, I agree that when possible they should bring things back in the form of a standard quest, like they did with the T'thuun pyramids. But there are some things that just don't make sense to bring back. For example the "Tracker Guardian" title from the live event that opened the Prodigal Human quest. The dungeon has been discovered, and there is no tracker to guard. It wouldn't make sense to bring back the title.

And to think of it another way, if there are no unique rewards for live events, why would people stop what they are doing to bother participating? A handful might show up because they are genuinely interested in the story, but most people would probably rather stay in their EO fellow and wait till the live event becomes a repeatable quest with a guide up on the wiki. Live events need to provide something to get players to drop what they are doing and go check it out.

[self_adhesive]

Live events need to provide something to get players to drop what they are doing and go check it out.

This is a good use for Hero Tokens or extra MFK or XP tokens. The guys (bots) grinding in EO likely wouldn't leave for a Live Event regardless of exclusive cosmetic rewards.

Fundamentally, I am not a supporter of any 1-time only reward based on luck rather than ability or effort. In this case, it is the luck that you are logged in when a Live Event occurs.

While I agree that some cannot be brought back in a good way, I think folks should be able to earn titles that still logically make sense. e.g. Mudmouth's Bane. (there are many examples)

I have to agree that the Tracker one is an exception to my anger. Why? That Live Event was announced and scheduled in advance. The lore stories and bits the Devs know are coming, so why make them random AND exclusive? If I miss that, it is my choice to pass up the opportunity.

I mentioned in another thread how Aerbax's original title makes sense too. At least I had the opportunity to try to be the first fellow to do it instead of a 'blammo' surprise 1-time event.

Mudmouth is still in game, but the alternate title is exclusive for the sake of exclusivity. Likewise, the T'thuun raid commanders does not make sense. No other reason than to be exclusive for its sake alone. That's not a good way to encourage your players. These are the ones I'm most upset with.

If they had put up a schedule of the 'special' T'thuun marauders and when they would be raiding, I could at least let it slide. As it is, I feel I never had an opportunity to achieve the reward. Few people did. And when we start talking about Developers spending a good deal of time to get out luck based exclusive rewards to an extreme minority of the player base, it leaves me incensed.

The lesson in this is to always be logged in hoping you don't miss an event, and if you should miss it, you will never get the reward. That's not a reward system I can get behind for Live Events.

There are plenty of other reasons why you should take part in Live Events other than the possibility of exclusive rewards.

[Fluter]

Some one need to show the DEV'S how to run the live events so the players don't get mad when they do run them.. maybe that's why they don't have live event like they had long time ago..