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Eggyburts
12-23-2003, 01:03 PM
OK i thought of this idea while chattin on VN.


I thought of mabe in a upcomming patch make the mansion barriers with a certain Shield lvl like the health of a tusker obliterator or something, where Raiders can shoot and attack the barrier in hopes of totaly destroying the barrier and gettin into the mansion to raid,

The point of destroying the barriers once and olny once defeats the purpose:

That is why my solution to this problem would be to have a day timer set on the barrier of the mansion, therefore if the barrier is destroyed it has to wait a full 24 hours before it is reconstructed at full Hp this whould creat lots of fun for the pkers who want to raid mansions, mansions whould be great to fortify and have defended by their allegiances. they cant be there just for show. lets put some fun into it.


Heres my idea i hope you like it, it was a shot in the dark but its something for you devs to please consider... =)


Thanks

Lavdas III- DT

Ivanhoe
12-24-2003, 10:52 AM
Its not a bad idea

But i dont think the devs will do it.


I think the only thing anyone can hope for in regards to mansion barriers is to have you unable to re-enter your barrier if you have been attacked or have attackes someone within the last 15-20secs (recall timer)


This means when a little mages pops out to vuln everyone he wont be able to jump back and be safe
He will have to fight or die or run away instead.

This will make mansion fighting better because u wont have 100 people trying to get 1 or 2 shots and then run to safety

They will be forced to stay out of the barrier to die/fight/etc


Its a change for thebetter and it would seem to be a really easy change as well because the devs have seem to always be open to doing things with the timer. It isnt a new thing they have to sit around and make up. its already done With not being able to enter portals or recall aaway timers.

So i think this is what we could hope for from the devs

A easy little tweak to barriers
Its not much but its somthing . and its easy
The devs like easy

Virindi Clown
12-25-2003, 12:24 PM
Being able to destroy the barrier for any period of time doesn't seem like the best idea to me. That sounds too complicated to apply to the game to even bother with. The barrier isn't actually a "thing" in the game so all that stuff would have to be redone.

However, it does seem they could apply the pk timer to entering a house barrier. That sure as heck works, and it stops the problem people have with it: people who refuse to fight but will just jump in and out to try and pick someone off so long as they have full health.

Krazed
12-25-2003, 07:48 PM
Why not just have a small barrier around the mansion stone only. It should be big enough to hold only 2 people.

That way you can still recall to your mansion without getting ganked. With the barrier around the stone only having enough space for 2 people everybody cannot hide behind it.

Ivanhoe
12-26-2003, 09:48 AM
mansions were put in to gather your monarchy/guild together easily (with mansion recall added)

Having a small barrier wouldnt make any since imo it defeats the purpose of a mansion.

But by keeping the people involved in a fight Out of the barrier would solve the Major problem with mansions and pvp

(people jumping in and out)

Unstoppable
12-26-2003, 12:37 PM
Sounds like a good idea.

Eggyburts
01-01-2004, 08:16 PM
what is the use of that big mansion takinup space in theworld of dereth? you can hook items in them but imo noone uses the other rooms, if the barrier was able to be taken downthe rooms canbe used to the full extent so you can hide and be ready for an attack.


this way the WHOLE mansion can be used as a defense mechanism

RocDynasty
01-01-2004, 08:50 PM
I like the idea but the barrier is huge. Why not make a covenant crystal so they can defend that easily? I am sick of punks hiding in mansion in raids and they have more numbers and talk trash.

TerrorScout
01-02-2004, 05:13 AM
I had a Post in the old forums about this I wish I had saved it to a Doc file but no and its lost.

It was the same basic Idea have a Attackable barrier but with a 15 second auto boot from the masion after you got in so you would need to reattack the barrier or Warding Stone to get back in.

Im thinking a Warding Stone outside the Barrier would be easyer to do.

It would auto heal every 5 seconds or so and have say 1 million life and no armor.

Maybe heal about 10,000 health each 5 second cycle.

It should also auto dispell every time it heals to so mages have to revulne all the time for maximum damage.

and you should be able to Restore the Stones life points with mana charges say 50 health per point of mana so a 2000 mana charge would add 100,000 health but thy would have to leave the shield to us them.

and you would want the calling stone to be in the middle of the masion maybe in a great hall type room.

I think it should be balanced to take 10 level 126's 10 minutes to take down a masion shield.

And if thy let up on there sege then its right back up in a few minutes.

Kimbalion
01-14-2004, 07:01 PM
Interesting idea, but needs a modification:

You can only harm the "shield" if someone from the mansion's allegiance is present in the mansion. The mansion dungeon would not count for this purpose.

This prevents wankers from waiting until nobody's around to make their attack. Real brave and manly, that.

Chubasco
01-14-2004, 07:33 PM
An even simpler "fix" to implement might be to add pk timers to housing/mansion barriers. Timers similar to recall/portals that prevent you from crossing the boundary if you've engaged in pk activity. This should be implemented in a way that prevents players from slide-barrier casting.

This will not force people who don't want to fight or defend their turf to come out, but it will prevent them from hiding while attacking.

smaweet
01-15-2004, 12:16 PM
get rid of barriers on mansion and villas, they have a basement for that..

at least on DT

lazy-dt
01-15-2004, 07:07 PM
I hope someone here rembers the blood mansion when they put the barriers down. It was like camping a portal drop. Totaly camped 24/7. If your going to do this idea, have some consiteration for the people being attacked. At least make the barrier respawn within 5-10 minuites max and not be able to be attacked for at least 5-10 minuites.