CONTEST: Do YOU know who Aerbax's mirror is?

[Ibn]

As Aerbax has continued his awful experiments on the creatures of Dereth, it has been revealed that there is someone -- or something assisting him. He's referred to this entity as his mirror.

In the Reawakening (http://ac.turbinegames.com/index.php?page_id=143) series of stories, we see this mirror in person for the first time. But the question remains -- who or what is the mirror?

We planned on revealing its true identity soon, but then we wondered... perhaps one of you out there has guessed?

So here's the deal:

In this thread, post your answer to the following question:

Who or what is Aerbax's mirror?

One guess per person.
The winner will be randomly selected from correct answers, and will receive a bit of Turbine swag.
The thread closes at 9PM EST on Tuesday 1/6/04 -- that's right, you only get a day to come up with your answer.
If there is no correct answer by 9PM EST Tuesday, the contest will continue.

Good luck!

[Aerbax]

Ler Rhan, of course. Muwahha!

[Ahric]

I'll say Ler Rhan because of the master comment.

When's the Imperator coming? :) He's my hero.

Sorry for all the edits, I'm done now. :)

[EvilElvis]

Isin Dule

[Uzi-El]

Ler Rhan. One of the only Shadow figures unaccounted for, and the only one that could make the "master" reference from Reawakening.

[Warlords]

Aerbax's syster or brother Or worse ennemy!

[zojakownith]

Martine

[Omran]

Aerbax's mirror is Isin Dule.

[Chain]

I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say Jhirvall.
I was going to go with Caerlin because of the "crown" but I got a gut feeling it's gonna be Jhirvall.

[Paraduck]

Yup, Ler Rhan is my guess as well.

[Aluvious]

Ler Rhan is my Answer.

Ler Rhan is BZ's PK General whom disappeared after BZ was Beaten.

The Singularity Caul rightfully belongs to BZ. In the reawakening part VI the voice mentions returning the Caul back to the way it was before. The Virindi Dominte it now. Ler Rhan is makin it BZ's home once again. I believe that Ler Rhan is going to attempt to Ressurect BZ also but that's just a shot in the dark. He did it once he can do it again.

In other words he is getting the house ready for his master =).

[Taam]

Ler Rhan

[midknight00711]

gotta be ler rhan =)

[Arkane]

Since everyone is saying Ler Rhan I will go with:

Talaagran

[Ockham]

I think it's Jhirvall as well.

[Og II]

I am inclined to think Ler Rhan

[Glainn]

I am going to REALLY be weird and Say that the Mirror is "The Singularity"

[EridynOfTheDark]

I shall make a random guess and say it is the nameless one. Not sure if that's the correct lore name for it...

I'm referring to the thing that controlled Baal'Zharon, created the shadows, etc.

BZ's master... that guy...

Sorry, I've not been too active lately, and have forgotten much of the lore...

[EpicFX]

Ler Rhan

[Empath]

I think it's Isin Dule.

[Serendipity]

Isin Dule. Good guess as any.

[Minudo]

I am going with Jhirvall

[Killz al-Evil]

I will have to venture a guess and say Jhirvall as well. I believe it would be the best guess for a few reasons. One: I'm almost certain this aid to the virindi is not Isin Dule for the fact that he aided Asheron and the Isparians on a few occasions (weakening of the Fenmalain Vestibule, and helped him find Heart of the Shadow. Good old Isin was then exiled from the shadows, so basically i don't think he would want to help them now. Two:Ler Rhan, another general of BZ, played a small role in the release of BZ from his crystal cage...then he mesteriously disapears afterwards...would be a good choice to help the virindi but i dont think he would be the best. Three: Black Ferah still lives but holds virgil over BZ's banished remains, so really think she is stuck with him for now. Four: The Kemeroi, or The Nameless as Asheron called them turned Illservian Palacost into BZ...but I'm pretty sure they aren't single entity so there goes that idea. Five: Before BZ defeat he told Jhirvall that "he still has the gift" and then hides Jhirvall or something because that is the last we hear of him, probably because he is BZ's "insurance". Anywho i have rambled on long enough and my lore may be a bit rusty, if there are any flaws in my little essay here please don't hesitate to tell me...no flames though please.

[Kawari]

Mikeal Alayne

[LifeSize]

Ler Rhan

[Fuggy]

Caerlin, and my motives have nothing to do with the fact that it would be chain's other guess heh ;)

[Booster]

I guess the virindi imperator.

[Chainfx]

I'd have to guess Ler Rhan as well. In all honesty it could be either of 3 entities but I'm going with the majority of the votes here seeing as there are those here that have studied the lore as much if not more than I have.

Good Luck All :)

[Milkman Dan]

Ler Rhan

[MaddyFF]

Ler Rhan

[AncientWizard]

I read though some of it. He speak of him. So i'm going with Ler Rhan also.

[Tara Malkav]

So the main choices I've seen have been Talaagran, Jhirvall, Isin Dule, Ler Rhan, Candeth Martine, Caerlin, and Black Ferah.

Talaagran was transformed into a Marionette.

I don't think it could be Jhirvall, partially because the figure being described seems to be a Shadow.

Isin Dule was a traitor to Bael'zharon, I'm not sure why he would want to return Singularity Cauln to it's former state.

Ler Rhan is a reasonable choice, being one of the only two loyal Shadow Generals of Bael'zharon that is still alive. Also, Ler Rhan has been missing, so much could have been accomplished.

Candeth's whereabouts are unknown. Is it possible that he could have made his way back to Dereth and be in league the Virindi? Doubtfully.

Caerlin died.

Ferah continously stands guard at the remains of the human form of Bael'zharon, Ilservian Palacost. While Ferah is loyal, I don't believe this is her.

I think Ler Rhan would be the most logical choice. It could be someone else, but I think Ler Rhan is the only person with a background that may point them to this.

[Admon Faye]

Isin Dule - Seems with the recent changes to the VoD and others, it would stand to reason a shadow is working in league with Aerbax. Isin Dule felt that Illservain Palatcost betrayed the kemeroi which is why he seemingly "betrayed" Bhael'zharon. I think Dule is trying to accomplish what he feels Palatcost failed to do.

But I could (and probably am) wrong

[vellus]

He is starting his plot to cause the catastrophe that happens with AC2. He is slowly moulding Aerbax to become the big bad Virindi in the final 3 showdown...

[Cerulia]

Well, most likely it's one of the shadows we've already met, but everyone else is guessing those so I'm going to be a little different ^_~

I think the mirror is a shadow twisted version of Aerbax - We know the shadows are people who have been corrupted, and the 'energy source' aerbax has been playing with seems like it's a source of that chaotic energy. I've been thinking since we first heard of it that mixing a virindi, which is near to pure order, with shadow energy, nearly pure chaos, can't be a good thing - Perhaps the two were so incompatable that they split into seperate beings, with aerbax remaining in control of himself (Rather than becoming like a shadow in the thrall of whoever the 'Master' is), and the mirror becoming the shadow version serving the 'master'.

Of course, there are holes in it, mainly that this didn't happen to any of the other virindi exposed to the energy source and also that none of the creatures exposed seem to serve the shadows - But then aerbax probably had a lot more exposure, and he's very powerful... Who knows ^_^

So, yes, shadow serving and corrupted version of Aerbax, that's my guess ^_~

[Tara Malkav]

Interesting choice vellus. I think you may actually have a good choice their. I wouldn't be surprised at all if that were true. I actually thought about Geraine's involvement, but I kind of tossed it out because no one else mentioned it. Though Geraine is an Undead and not a Shadow, it's possible. It will be interesting to see what happends. :)

[Solan]

Ler Rhan.


It pretty much has to be a shadow of some sort, but I doubt it's Isin Dule.

[Osis]

We've already done most of the narrowing down.

So I'm saying its going to be...


Ler Rhan

[kgober]

the Harbinger

-ken

[Aaryna]

I think it might be Atlan.

[Dark Coil]

Its going to be...

Ler Rhan

[Paraduck]

Well, I definitely think it's a Shadow of sort. I mean, look at the new Shadows and the lore... it's obvious it's a "Shadow" of sorts. And one we already know, because how could we guess what something is if we didn't know of it previously?

[tsuess]

Ler Rhan

[Brody_WE]

It must be Martine.

[MrsKenny]

I think it was Geraine (His eternal splendor). Look how many Ministers of the Disciples of the Blood he killed and he even managed to get the secrets from one before killing him.

[Tolliver]

Candeth Martine

[Cyrus]

Guessing Ler Rhan.

[westenhoffer]

I would have to say Ler Rhan

[Sax]

I think it's himself !! His alter ego, inner self. His "mirror", or
( his BAD SIDE ) :)

[Seces]

Sounds to me like Ler Rhan :D

[durst-td]

it is oswald.

[AzulDrakkon]

It's Tasha!

We know she has a hidden agenda :p

[Zaerik-MT]

I'd say Martine, just because martine rocks and is my favorite character in the game. and because i just cant beleive that martine is gone for good. (Either that or the evil bartender in holtburg!...Iv always suspected something was wrong with him!:cool: )

[Evoker II]

The "Echo" :)
I'll post in a minute who/what that is :)


The Overseer

[Chupon]

it's the long forgotten shadow general, coolly! :p

Coolly, the Shadow General moves on to the plains nigh upon the borders of the Aluvian realm.

nah in all seriousness i think it's Ler Rhan also :)

[Draloch]

Ler Rhan is my guess.

[hyper-child]

Ler Rhan

[Evoker II]

He's not a shadow unless he's been altered greatly

[poisontouch]

Ler Rhan:D :D

[Ehran]

Hmm....after giving this a fair amount of though, I will have to go with the majority on this - Ler Rhan, and perhaps I should have. It seems clear to me, though this could be deceptive, that it IS a shadow of some sort. I'd originally been considering Bael'Zharon - his mortal form was destroyed by the Virindi-Human-Shadow-Undead Alliance's efforts, but his twisted spirit lived on. The one thing that stays me from concluding this, is that there is no evidence that Aerbax is of the level of the darkness which helped to create the Hopeslayer, and that is the only thing I can see Bael'Zharon calling master. Most significantly to my mind, however - is that Aerbax was called...perhaps by the same darkness that created Bael'Zharon in the first place.

I'm not certain that Ler Rhan is the echo, but that is my guess. Dule would not have called him master whom he once called Brother.

-Ehran

[Feanor]

Ler Rhan

[Tanua]

It's the Black Breath...

[Idhitit]

Yeah... I'm gonna go with Ler Rhan...

[Sorrowfull]

im going to go with something entirely not guessd yet

Levistras

[jross_86]

Ler Rhan

Its a shot in the dark..... Going with gut instincts

[GreyHulk]

Ler Rhan

[Dominie-Dirtch]

Hamud. His katar is superb.

[Sigma]

Alright, my guess is a shot in the dark, and not based off of any lore whatsoever, just because it hasn't been mentioned...



LILITHA!!



And if that's not right, I'm going with a evil Ben-Ten :D

[Evoker II]

Brax

Man this is killing me

[Evoker II]

Lilitha's still in a prisoner in the Portal Space dungeon

[Evoker II]

It can be a type of Rift aswell

I know that's two answers, oh well

[Evoker II]

Levistras is an interesting answer. I almost posted his name. But it's written that Aerbax even friend of Levistras saw Levistras's Cause as a total waste with certain doom. If they met up afterwards and chatted and came with another plan maybe it could be.

[Klecht'ar Breh]

Jhirvall, and that is my final answer.

[HeXt]

It's probably Ler Rhan.

[HeXt]

BLAH... this sucks... everyone else guessed it too. :(

[Enosh]

Originally posted by vellus
He is starting his plot to cause the catastrophe that happens with AC2. He is slowly moulding Aerbax to become the big bad Virindi in the final 3 showdown...

I would actually guess Ler Rhan but for the same reason you said Vellus... Based on what was said it sounds like Ler Rhan is setting up for the return of the hopeslayer. Now it's quite possible he's working with Geraine, either knowingly or unknowingly but, I still think it's the shadow himself.

[Televangelist]

Oswald. Trust me. :)

[Drater]

I think the mirror is... a mirror. Possibly magically enchanted in some way. But it's just a mirror.

[Samus]

I think it's Ler Rhan

Samus The archer level 91 MT

[raretext]

Ulgrim

It's so obvious

[ShashaLahara]

Ler Rhan

[Someguy1]

Jhirvall

[Copesh]

Ler Rhan seems to be most popular answer so my guess is going to be Ler Rhan and thatrs my final answer :D

[Dumblz]

Ler Rhan

[Weasel_ff]

I'm going to have to go with the minority and say that it's Oswald... Reading through all the stuff seems to indicate that he's transformed into some kind of shadow figure. He also asks Nuhmudira if she thinks she still controls more magic than him, which I take to mean he's the one playing with Aerbax's toys while he's away.

[Renegade]

Ler Rhan - That evil Shadow >:)

[Compelled_mind]

Ler Rhan

[Little_Bobert]

I think it is Ler Rhan as well. In all due respect though, it could easily be someone/thing else.

[Seldin_Rogue]

Okay.... Am I wrong or doesn't this seem like Oswald is dead?

“I’m the best at–” His words were cut short as a bolt of energy washed over him, through him, and tore his being asunder. As he began to drift away as smoke rising on the wind, he saw the Nuhmudira that he had killed sizzle and melt into the floor.

“No, Oswald…I am.” Nuhmudira’s hand clutched the wound at her neck as she walked to the illusion she had created. It drifted away to nothing as she closed the wounds on her neck, arm, back and chest.

^^Definately seems like she destroyed him utterly and unless he as part shadow can use a lifestone, he's toast.

[Seldin_Rogue]

I think it's gonna be Ler Rhan...

[DtLS]

I think it's Ler Rhan, he had a thing for children and the mirror was playing with small shadow children while talking with Kaebrix.

[Graybeard]

BaelZhaeron (sp?)

[Rivan II of WE]

I think it's Hamud - he is due to be heard from plus he left because he wanted to create a purer world.

[sgghays]

ler rhan

[Lycentia]

My guess is the soul Ilservian Palacost himself, "The Hopesalyer" "Bael'Zharon"

[Mortog]

Ler Rhan

[-Poptart-]

I think it's Ler Rhan

[RolandG]

Ler Rhan

[Whisper]

I'm guessing Bael'Zharon, just to be a little different.

Likely it's Ler Rhan, though.

[Killz al-Evil]

i still stick with Jirvall because...well even Black Ferah had a shadow form and her natural form...but then again why would the Virindi want to bring back the Hopeslayer if hes not so nice a guy

[-Pepsi-Addict-]

Oswald

[TorinFeldrin]

LARRY THE BUNNY MASTER!!!

It is always the one you least suspect.

Well, actually that never holds true except in really bad fiction. But those rabbits got big somehow.... and I smell Virindi experimentation!

[Cal Talin III]

I'm going to go with Isin Dule here.

Isin Dule seemed to be a bit jealous of the Hopeslayer title. He could be trying to clear out Caul and bring back the shadows so he can be the next Hopeslayer. As far as the comment about Aerbax being gone as his master before him. I think that Dule has disposed of Aerbax (or has him imprisoned) and says this to mock Bael'Zharon. Dule used Aerbax to clear out the island and now Aerbax's usefulness is done.

I don't think this could be Ler Rahn because Ler Rahn does not represent a "mirror" of Aerbax. Aerbax rebelled against the Singularity as Isin Dule rebelled against Bael'Zharon. Also, I do not see why Ler Rahn would treat Aerbax as his equal or better, the generals are far more powerful.

I believe that Dule, however, will realize in doing this that he cannot control the power he wishes to have.

[Killz al-Evil]

wow nice answer Cal

[Great_Hippo]

its himself...he has split personalites :D

[Imgsourcerer]

Ler Rhan

[}Bluetoe{]

The person that I believe is the "mirror" is one of the Town Criers. How is it that they always find out info first? How do they always know about Aerbax's movement? They have too much intelligence to stand on a street corner 24/7. One, maybe all of them help Aerbax.
Watch your backs fellow Isparians! Those Town Criers are always watching!!! :D

[JenArmstrong]

The "Echo" is my guess

[Evoker II]

Heeeeeere's Johnny!

[Ibn]

OK!

As many of you guessed correctly, Aerbax's mirror is none other than:

LER RHAN

One of the Hopeslayer's original five companions, this Shadow stayed mostly out of the limelight during the Fourth Sending. Now, for whatever reason, he appears to have aided Aerbax in the Virindi's experiments. With Aerbax apparently elsewhere, what will Ler Rhan do with the beasts that he and Aerbax have created?

There were LOTS of correct guesses, but a random drawing has chosen the winner from all of those who answered correctly.

And the winner is:

Enosh

Congratulations Enosh! Please send me a PM so we can get you your prize.