How about this for PvP on white servers..

[Roy_DeMeo]

This is to fix PK on white servers as red is pretty much dead on them.
Have PKLs and PKs be able to fight each other.
If you are Pink and you die to a Red you lose items and gain vitae.
If you are Red and die to a Pink you lose nothing but buffs.
Have Red and Pink dots be able to effect each other with spells.
With the new fastcasting buffing Pink has become a even bigger joke. I would love Turbine to take out PKL completely but that won't happen anytime soon so why not compromise.
This is just a thought.

Roy

[5150Joker]

Or you could play on DT where real PKs are.

[Roy_DeMeo]

Did back in '00 was fun for a bit too I will admit.
Maybe I will go back but with not knowing anyone I think I would be quite disadvantaged vs a lvl 200+ group :D
What would be fantastic is if Turbine actually changed thier mind and made the new server RED, we already have two new white server called Solcaim and Wintersebb, look how they are? All chained up clans hanging around doing nothing.
Turbine had to lift level restricts on several dungeons because no clans had anyone lvl 30 or under to get a intricate piece to finish some quests lol.

Roy

[5150Joker]

Well I just came back after 2 yrs of no DT action. Egayed a char to use as a buff bot and am leveling up a new char of my own. Got him to lvl 42 already in 4 days so its really not as tough as you may think. Most of the good hunting places for chars that aren't 100+ are barely occupied so you get uninterrupted hunting for hours. I'm really surprised more ppl from carebear servers don't give DT a shot, its not nearly as tough a world as they may think.

[DarkLegend]

Yeah -- darktide's little dungeon's aren't really tooken up very much..

I've actually not played much, but its because the game in general is getting old to me....or maybe I need to try something new??

I've been playing Splinter Cell PT -- Not so bad multiplayer =P

[Roy_DeMeo]

It's not the leveling up or the harshness that made me quit.
It was the freaking lag and dropping my connection whenever more then 2 ppl were in the same landblock that drove me away.
Red pk will always be fun but if turbine wants more people to play actively on the red server they need to put more resources into enhancing that server.
When you have cable modem and play/pk fine on the other servers without the lag dropping you to a standstill it's a better choice then never even seeing how you died or rebooting your comp/modem every 10 minutes just to play on DT.

Roy

[Sabu]

The reason pink was made was to make it be pk without any purpose(well consequence). A new Red server would probally spark interest and drag in some more pvp players from other games.

[5150Joker]

Originally posted by Roy_DeMeo

When you have cable modem and play/pk fine on the other servers without the lag dropping you to a standstill it's a better choice then never even seeing how you died or rebooting your comp/modem every 10 minutes just to play on DT.

Roy


Unfortunately Turbine doesn't consider us DT players full customers and probalby uses a 486 as a server.

[Roy_DeMeo]

Honestly, regardless of all the little bugs and tweaks PvP in AC really tops the list on MMORPHs. It's a shame they don't really seperate DT on certain aspects such as loot value and such.
Turbine making pink was aweful, it reminds me of RvR in DaoC except with alot of wasteful trash talk with no meaning backing it up.
Also if you group like 20 pink dots around Ayan you will get the same result as a raid on pk, lots and lots of lag. It is still bearable compared to DT.
A new red server would spark alot of interest in pk for many on white servers, it would put a even playing field for all. Another white server has no meaning anymore, if people wanted a new white server, they would just reformat Wintersebb or Solcaim.

Roy

[Mistikal]

I would love Turbine to take out PKL completely but that won't happen anytime soon so why not compromise.



Do this, and I will promise you that there will only be a hand full of people standing around at the latest hot spot holding hands waiting and complaining there is no one to fight.

Until Turbine addresses the looting issues, pink will be the choice for pvp on white servers, period.

[Roy_DeMeo]

They are already holding hands around the hotspots. Worse now with PKL around. They complain and complain but they won't go red. Those who do go red maybe run into one other red person but thats it. Then all the pink dots(like 15 of them) just start a kumbaya around AB.
Then when you try to get some action started and jump a few people you get yelled/cussed at for "jumping" thier duels lol, that's what it's come to it's so sad they actually think it's a horrible thing to go around a hotspot and fight without asking them first to attack them lol.

Roy

[Blau]

You suggestion is a good idea (red and pink can fight) but misses the mark a bit. I think red and pink should be able to engage, but when a red and a pink engage, it should be a pink fight. Otherwise people won't go pink for fear of encountering a level 250 red that's gonna take their stuff.

Probably the easy solution is to just allow PKs to go @pklite.

[Slpoheklmnuov]

actually, I've suggested many many times in the past that pkl and pvp should be the exact same, just make it so that pks can't loot pkls, and pkls can't loot anyone. They should be able to fight each other, and there shouldn't be just a command to go pkl.

[Roy_DeMeo]

Well it's definitley a step in the right direction if this was all possible. However I do wish to give a benefit to red pking as well not just give more incentive for pkl.
I suggested a red pk being able to loot/vitae a pink pk because it would at least give the incentive for more pinkers to go red.
Then I thought about it and it would just make less of the n00bs to go pink in itself (to me that is glorious) but not fair to all.
I think you SHOULD have to go to some kind of alter to go pink and have the exact same timer as red pk if you were in a battle recently to go back to white. The new FC buffing just really degenerates any real effort into pking whatsoever if you kill someone at a ls in a group fight because they can be fully effective in pk within 2 minutes of dying.
A new red server would be nice too, I have stated before we have 2 new white servers already WE and SC. Give pk some love, I bet turbine would be surprised how many people would play actively on a new pk server where everyone is on a level playing field.

Roy