Give us your feedback on Verdantine and the sixth character slot.

[Ibn]

Read the article here. (http://ac.turbinegames.com/index.php?page_id=232)

Closing this thread as it refers to an old article and folks are posting VT launch feedback on it.

[Solan]

Do I understand correctly that all new accounts will have 6 character slots now? Else, I don't understand the 'both existing and newly created ' comment.

Oh, and link no workie-workie. (too many HTTP's I think)

[AFWriter]

Well, I can always reschedule my leave to start on VT.

Plus I get a 6th slot early.

At least in this game, when there's bad news we get it early.

Now, if you would just take the month timer of the new fellowhip spells so us non-exploiters can compete with the exploiters ...

LOL!

Thanks for the news Ibn, even if it's not all good.

Later,

Don!

[Gouru]

Can I do a pre-emptive post about how once again we were lied to by Turbine and maybe stand a chance of preventing the sour grapes from the professional complainers?

Yeah...I know...wishful thinking... :(

p.s. Thanks for the heads up...and the slot!

[Bardo]

can I get a "w00t"?

OK so the VT thing really bites but I think the 6th slot will hold me over =).

[obie]

I get an extract character slot on 4/26 but have to wait until June for new world. Since The original week of May12. I was going to E3 and would not be able to play, June sounds great to me!

[Merubin]

Thanks for the early new character slot :)

[nofeir]

I don't think we were LIED to. That implies a deliberate attempt to deceive. The intricies of coding this game make Turbines aspirations often unreachable in the time frames they tell us they want to achieve. I for one appreciate the honesty they are currently showing. They tell us what they want to do and when that won't work, they confess and we move on. They shouldn't be flamed for every change.

Now, do I understand correctly that we'll have a sixth player slot starting after the April 26th patch?

[Ibn]

Originally posted by Solan
Do I understand correctly that all new accounts will have 6 character slots now? Else, I don't understand the 'both existing and newly created ' comment.

Oh, and link no workie-workie. (too many HTTP's I think)

You do understand correctly.

Grrr... that's it, I'm gonna hack the vBulletin code to keep that from happening ever again. :)

[Ibn]

Originally posted by nofeir
Now, do I understand correctly that we'll have a sixth player slot starting after the April 26th patch?

Yes, that is correct.

[Signalerror]

Will any accounts opened later this year receive the 6th char slot or do we have to start it before april 26?

[DarkMarcsun]

I'm sure the most obvious question for those affected by the 'Six Toon Bug" is how will you decide which of their characters to delete, if in fact that is what you will do?

[DoT]

And I was even going to resubscribe early next week just to play around till the new server opens. Oh well, I guess I can play some older games till June 9th.

:(

[Ibn]

Originally posted by Signalerror
Will any accounts opened later this year receive the 6th char slot or do we have to start it before april 26?

Yes, any accounts created in the future will have the 6th slot.

[Ibn]

Originally posted by DarkMarcsun
I'm sure the most obvious question for those affected by the 'Six Toon Bug" is how will you decide which of their characters to delete, if in fact that is what you will do?

None of the characters will be deleted.

We were looking at the possibility of trying to delete the most recent, or of giving you the opportunity to delete down to five before we deleted any characters... but in the end, we decided this: We're giving everyone the sixth slot next Monday. Is it really worth the time and energy to remove a character that you can just recreate on Monday? No, it's not.

[Star Fire]

ok so if everyone gets the 6th character (which was supposed to be a gift to your longtime players) then does that mean we are no longer as special?

[DarkMarcsun]

/e prays for a pack Margul instead.

[Solan]

Star Fire, I am guessing here, but due to them thinking a character had to be made on a server to get the 6th slot, then it HAD to be existing accounts only. They seem to have changed how the coding will go, and can now give it to all accounts. Yes, it means old accounts aren't treated 'special' but I am thinking that wasn't really the intention in the first place.

[Jet-eye-nite]

I wonder how much other code is bonkers

[Nyxus]

do we honestly think that opening on a patch day is a good idea? i mean, it's already gonna put a large enough strain on the server with almost 3K people starting up...but downloading the new patch and all that junk? (edited out the word cr@p *shrug*) I was disapointed when i read it was pushed back, but even more disapointed when i saw it was on ANOTHER patch day. I just think that the roll out would go better on a different day.

[Signalerror]

Even though this is a treat for any old player, its no longer a PLUS to have been on board before this patch.

Any chance of ... a Asheron pack doll this patch? Complete with Castable Asheron's Blessing (Stackable +10 To armor) and bowing action?

After all they old guy left us those nifty flags and Undies... why not a doll to finish it off ;)

[Charon HG]

Well we were first led to beleave all of us that have been playing would be rewarded for going through all that we have with the creation of te 6 player slot for just us the core that have stayed. Now we are being told oh well everyone gets it which I'm happy for just seems long time player reconition is still out the window.

[Poozer]

Thanks for the update!

Personally I like the new character slot > new server. :)

[Harzah]

I know people will be disappointed Verdantine will open later than expected, but it happens =/ I'm not terribly troubled over it myself except as in regard to my friends who'd like to start over and play there. Better that the time is taken to do it right though =)

Regarding the sixth character slot - I dont understand what the 'bug' has to do with allowing everyone to have a 6th character slot, now and in future, but I'm not very bothered by 'newbies' getting it as well. AC has about the least amount of storage of any of the MMOs I have played yet and I'm sure we'll all be happy to have a mule =)

[Akmahon]

I'm just curious... Why do servers have to open on patch day?

[Alex deChaz]

Woot!! Thank you Ibn for the sixth slot early. I really needed it. Can you please make mana stones stackable??

[Jinnsman]

mmmmm stackable manna stones, now that is a worthy idea (much better than wasting time with stackable master mage gems!)

edit: oh and woot! for the char slot early, sounds good to me. Also, no prob on the delay. While a bit disappointing, I would rather have it right than on time. Many thanks for the update!

[Flynn]

Originally posted by Ibn
Yes, any accounts created in the future will have the 6th slot.
Is there an end date for when new accounts will get this, or is it permanent? i.e. if I start a new account when the expansion comes out or later, would I still get a 6th slot?

I've been trying to talk some friends of mine into playing, and I've been telling them to get an account before June so they'd get a 6th slot. If there's no deadline on it, they could wait till the expansion's released or even later.. it just seems a little surprising that you would deny yourselves an opportunity to bring about an influx of new players like this, by having a benefit to starting sooner rather than later.

[ElgarL]

Damn. I've been waiting what seems like ages for VT :(. Ah well I guess I get a month of programing time on ELTank.

[sylphia]

VT: *shrug* it happens. I decided a few months ago not to move to the new server, so I have to admit it really doesnt affect me personally.

I am glad you have opted to give the 6th slot out to everyone rather than drag up the issue of which toons to delete. While its a nice caviat to be rewarded with a 6th toon slot for our years of support, I also admit to some qualms about depriving newer players of the same benefit for their $13 per month.

Of course, this raises the question of what you will be doing INSTEAD to reward "Elder" players :)

Food for thought: EQ is currently doing an event to celebrate their anniversary (5th if I understand correctly). According to my roomie, players can do a quest which gets them a wand of fireworks with unlimited charges. What kind/how many fireworks are displayed are determined by the age of the account. In other words, a brand new toon on a 5-yr-old account would get the "best" wand. The quest is optional, so it isnt a "forced" tag on the players, and it gives them a way of "showing off" how long they have supported the game.

Obviously the candy would have to be different, and would preferably be a bit more functional (not to mention ivorably for display in housing), but the principle would be the same: the item would be account-flagged to show how long the ACCOUNT as opposed to the TOON has been around.

[Bruiserk]

Well, the problems with the new server aren't a big deal. That kind of thing happens.

I am sorry to see my reward for playing this game for 4+ years changed into just a normal upgrade for the game, and available to all. I'm not surprised though. I've been getting jerked since you bought the game back, and I'm starting to get used to it now.

Just another thing to add to that list.

Here's an idea though:
How about as a reward to your loyal fan base, that you restore the old XP passup system on the existing worlds, and institute the new system on Verdantine (and any future worlds)? It can't be that difficult. I mean, you have a server that makes all players PK, you can do the same with the XP passup. Just give me a way to level my mule, and reward monarchs for their work.

[DadgaSilverhand]

yeah! Asheron's pack doll with "level-up firework" display e-motings reward to those reached 126th lvl cap would be cool for housing hooks.

Thank you for having 6th slot a little bit early.

[She-Nyyx]

Originally posted by Signalerror
After all the old guy left us those nifty flags and Undies... why not a doll to finish it off ;)

nyuk nyuk :p

[sharpy-sc]

Ill tell ya why...

Sure Im glad we are getting the slot earlier than expected...and personally VT is not a concern of mine at all...

but Im a little disappointed because..

You said that the sixth character slot was for all of us that have stuck by the game and kept it going... it was an appreciation gift ... not for johnny come latelys..

I felt special for a little while =^) oh well...

[Iceness]

happy about teh slot but a little dissapointed about verdantine =\

overall a good patch so far!

[Mythwin]

The 6th character slot is a welcome addition, and earlier than I expected. I'm not surprised that it's going to be available to all new accounts - I thought you were creating a potential can of worms to try and maintain code for two "classes" of players.

As for the delay in Verdantine, it's unfortunate, but I'm grateful for the honesty with which you guys seem to be handling such problems. In the past, I often felt that "the powers that be" were a little too hesitant to reveal bad news. This in turn impacted their credibility - at least with me.

You guys seem to be making a real effort to provide timely information even when it's not the most pleasant. Many of us appreciate it. Keep up the good work

[knowone201]

Was going to come back to the game with 2-3 acounts. I reinstall AC today in fact. So this sucks for me. Could you give the players on VT a reword for the delay. Like a title we can only get for the 1st week on the server.

[Wing]

Originally posted in Changes in the Air
As further thanks to our loyal players for staying with us during this transition, we’ll be giving you two free gifts in the April and June events.

After the April event, existing characters will be able to obtain a new Raiment from an NPC in Al-Arqas.

With the June event comes an even bigger gift: All existing Asheron’s Call accounts will be given a sixth character slot on all worlds. This gift is only for existing accounts – new accounts after the June event will still have only five character slots.

Thank you again for being our customers! We’re very excited about the future of Asheron’s Call and we hope you are too!

I am not one to usually gripe but now that your giving future accounts 6 character slots what other gift will Turbine give their "Loyal" players? The ones that stuck with your through thick and thin. The ones that stayed with you guys through the rough times and through all the changes where everyone was crying "Nerf nerf Nerf" and "Cancel Cancel Cancel".

I love you guys at Turbine, but it hurts that a gift that was meant for the "Loyal" players has become AC Standard across the board.

[Roogon]

The bad news .. the bug in the sixth character.:(

The good news .. they fix it and we get the sixth character next Monday.:)

The bad news .. the new world release date has been push back a month.:mad:

The good news .. ElgarL will have more time to program !!!:D .. priceless ..

[Autumna Oakford]

Was really looking forward to MT

A lot of the people I am moving to MT with have done some exceptional planning work and testing to establish how quickly we can get a mansion....yes we actually want a filthy great big expensive mansion.

Now to have to wait till 7 weeks instead of 3 is like a bit of a kick in the teeth, but I suppose it gives us even more tme to perfect the testing.


As for the 6th character slot on Monday....WOOT....even more storage space. Thanks.

[Soloist]

What was the good news again?


Soloist

[Graybeard]

I'm pleased as can be about the extra character slot coming out early :D Frankly, the delay in VT's opening does not bother me at all. I've got toons on 5 of the 8 current servers right now, so I have my hands full.

As far as the gift to loyal players, my personal opinion is this - -

The best gift that Turbine can give us is the gift of honest and open communication. Whether we get good news or bad, whether we agree with a decision or not, open communication with its player base is why Turbine is several notches above all other MMO competition.

Turbine - THANK YOU VERY MUCH for granting your player base this ongoing gift. I highly value and appreciate it.

Gray

[Elistra]

Woot!

1) I'm glad we're going to be getting the 6th character slot so soon!

2) I honestly don't mind that the noobs will have a 6th slot as well. Come on, guys... we all know what a pain mule space can be with only 5 slots, especially when you're a packrat. I cannot find it in my heart to begrudge the noobits the boon of a 6th slot.

We current subscribers already have so many items that will not be available to the noobs. Even if having longtime status-y things to impress the noobs with is important to you (I couldn't care less myself, but...) we already have a lot of that. We've even had several items of that nature added quite lately, what with the asheron's flags and ulgrim's bathrobes and whatnot....

Originally posted by Signalerror
Even though this is a treat for any old player, its no longer a PLUS to have been on board before this patch.

Sure it is. We don't have 4.5 years of history to catch up on, intricate economies to learn from scratch, etc. These new lils do.... they have quite a daunting task ahead of them... :)

[Yvy]

Thanks you Turbine - the looting is becoming better :-) also the gift of 6 Toon will be wonderful. because of trying out what one can do without buffing :-) cya in game and have fun

Yvy

[XviiX]

ok, this is cool
when is the new server slated for opening?
or has it been nailed down yet?
plz lemme know,

(anxious and awaiting):D

[Dom on TD]

The new server isn't a big deal to me, but the 6th character slot coming early AND being available to new accounts is making be smile. I really didn't see the point in giving us PP accounts for the newer players to complain about later. LOL I guess I can't go selling PP accounts on Ebay now. I could have been the next Niro........

[akki]

as for the server.
dates tend to slip in the software world. thats just life. i think i'll be nifty to have a fresh server without those exp chains. on WE there were lvl 126's in something like a week.. You cant even tank that kinda XP. as far as leveling your mule.. hell give it some trophy items then go hunt with it for a few days. then untraining something and put it in str. ect

Giving the 6th slot to only existing accounts.
can you imagine the issuse this could bring up? i would imagine it's not some huge dev team that has all the time in the world to deal with "issues", be that coding or otherwise.
furthermore - Turbine *may* still end up rewarding loyal fan base (i want a special pack that will hold an extra pack, or could fit inside another pack ;) ... but i guess that remains to be seen. it's not like they posted a big Scew-you guys thing. it's probably just not a battle worth fighting.

Which brings me to... the sixth slot
Whooo Hooo! my mules are maxed, my chests are full.. i'm muleing stuff on my kids account now. i know evercrack has a buncha slots. (no real way to mule very effectively tho ;]::) at least not when i played it.

as for the loot system. no one will like me for this but.. i liked it better the other way... money actually started to mean something. the other day hunting i made 6mmds in 2 maybe 2 1/2 hours. Monty Hall if you ask me. what the heck does a swords guy need a bunch of money for? bow more understandable, but that could have been fixed in otherways. easier to make deadly's whatever, mages might hafta actually pick up components (so dropping tapers would be OK ;) but tell me what does anyone need a stack of mmds for?? i still cant figure out what to do with mine. i seemed to make enough money for components (plats mostly). if you not makeing money your probably hunting the wrong thing. hunting tuskers???? it's either money or XP. why should they sudenly start dropping great loot? i dont know, i still seemed to amass cach after the patch.. took me a few days to get use to is all and it was a little slower rate. (i miss all the majors but they were getting far too comon anyway) basically it's summed up in the phrase, "I'f you aren't makeing enough money to supply yourselves for hunting.. then your hunting the wrong things. try i different critter." as for buying uber armor for your low lvl's... thats not really how the game was intended to play anyway now was it? anyway thats what hunting is about. it's more like what do we need? money/"uber" stuff.. salvage?? XP?? not i want it all and now.

ok, done with my rant on the subjects.
Sorry for being longwinded, opinionated, and sometimes critical, but i'm a tester, and thats part of the reason i'm a good one ;]

Peace
Akki 8--m

[Kestrel]

Some of you lot would complain if you were hanged with a new rope.

So everyone gets a 6th slot--so what? Were you going to camp the Shoushi outposts, logging in all 6 characters, one after the other, each time a newbie came out of the training dungeon?? It's not like you could show it off, as I can the "birth date" of my first-night-created character on Wintersebb (except I don't allow it to display).

I'm afraid I just don't understand this "entitlement mentality" so many of you have. You PAY to play this game; that entitles you to whatever Turbine gives you in return, and nothing more.

Would it be nice to have something special, as a "Thank You" for our loyalty? Sure. Is Turbine evil if they don't give us something? One might think so...

Come on people, let's find something worthwhile on which to vent our spleen. But about not being "special"?

[Rauth]

Oh my... well by some responses it goes to show that the adage about good deeds still runs true in universal law.

I am glad you identified the slot bug and are taking steps to fix it immediately. Sorry to hear Verdantine isn't quite ready for primetime, but I hope this just makes it even more ready in June (or thereafter if necessary.)

Take your time and do it up right - I've been playing a few other games recently, including some up and comers and it seems plans becoming rife with problems are the status quo in the industry this month. Must be some astrological phenomenon.

[Endactam]

Why exactly does the new server have to open on patch day?

It seems to me that it would be the worst possible time to open it due to possible bugs & everyone downloading the patch.

[Ibn]

Originally posted by Akmahon
I'm just curious... Why do servers have to open on patch day?

It has to do with Engineering and Operations scheduling. We did look into scheduling the server open on a day other than patch day, but patch day makes the most sense overall.

[Ghent]

I think a new all-pink server with no housing would be a blast and a half.

[Mosswart Ninja]

As some have stated earlier, thank you Turbine for the open communication. It is MUCH better to know what is going on. I agree , it is a gift from you. And thank you for the 6th slot! That's better than another chest at the villa for us. :)

[kioskies]

Gj

[Soloist]

Originally posted by akki
as for the server.
dates tend to slip in the software world. thats just life. i think i'll be nifty to have a fresh server without those exp chains. on WE there were lvl 126's in something like a week..


Where do you people come up with this stuff? The first character to EVER hit 126 wasn't on WE, and did it the month after WE opened.



Soloist

[knowone201]

I think a new all-pink server with no housing would be a blast and a half.

I'm for a new all-pink server with housing.

[Obiwan]

Originally posted by Soloist
Where do you people come up with this stuff? The first character to EVER hit 126 wasn't on WE, and did it the month after WE opened.



Soloist

Think maybe you should go back and read Akkis' post? Just maybe? Because I read it. And never once did he mention anything about WE having the first ever level 126.

About the gift that was:

Im a little curiuos as to why you guys went back on your word about the 6th slot being a gift to Current and Long Standing customers. Yah ok, things in the world change, but dont you think that people have brought it up enough times to warrant even a minor explaination? Even just what mind set might have changed your mind. Something, anything. Just be honest with us please. You've been reptty open about many things. It would be a shame if you couldnt be open about this as well.

[Soloist]

Originally posted by Obiwan
Think maybe you should go back and read Akkis' post? Just maybe? Because I read it. And never once did he mention anything about WE having the first ever level 126.

Maybe you should go back and read his post, eh? He claims WE had level 126s the first week. Which really isn't possible since the first person to ever hit 126 did it nearly a month after WE opened.

WE didn't have a level 126 within the first month, or even 2 months.



Soloist

[Lord-of-Light]

Yea, Akki, Soloist has the right of it. As I best recall, that person was presumabl Tim the Enchanter, and he did it on the server he'd been playing for long before WE came online (can't recall which one it was). And I'm not sure that it was the month after WE came up either; my best recollection was that it happened (or at least was announced) in May, and I vaguely recall that WE was started in like the February of that same year.

In any event, within a matter of weeks after WE opened, there were some low 50s types running around, but no one was anywhere close to 100, much less 126 in that kind of timeframe. If scripts existed back then for anywhere near the kind of rapid development we have today, they certainly weren't available for public use/consumption like those we have now.

[Ghent]

With or without housing, I think a pink server makes sense.

It will appeal to both people from DT and from NPK servers.

It won't wreck any other server -- people will go there for something different, but their home server will remain there for a different style of play.

The first six months, while everyone scrambles to level without equipment, without buffbots, without 2000 plats stashed away, will be a lot of fun.

[Viamund]

I think that is wonderful news.

[DraconisUmbra]

How the heck did I miss this? :D Sounds pretty cool. Too bad about the new server though. Was thinking of checking it out prolly still will though heh might be kinda bored by June. :)

[Obiwan]

Yup I agree with you as far as his miscalculation on the time frame of them so called 126ers. First week 126ers!!! Yah right, impossible. Would take at least that kind of time to even make a chain large enough to make level 126's in that kind of time. What I merely pointed out is you quoted him and then I quoted you as saying, and you did say, that he said, Wintersebb had the first EVER level 126... In fact, he didnt say that. Right?

I think it only fair that if you quote somebody its at least the correct quote thats all. And correctly interpreted as well.

I mean no offense to you Solo. Just think its right to be fair thats all.

[Soloist]

Obi,

If he says WE had 126's within the first week, and in fact no one hit 126 until a month after WE opened, what's he claiming?



Soloist

[_AbBaNdOn]

Lets see......

Turbine CAN NOT add an extra 24 slots to a storage chest because it would cause extra lag..........

But Turbine CAN add an extra character slot which has around 250 slots ????

I understand you wanna protect the exploiters who dont wanna get rid of all their 126's but who else is the extra character slot suppose to help ??

I'd much rather have 10 extra pack slots put into a storage chest.

[SvenDryden]

Ibn,

I understand that as of April 26th accounts recieve a new slot, and the same applies to future created accounts. My question is (and I imagine this falls into the "ALL accounts" category) will existing accounts that are unsubscribed recieve this benefit? My bro has an account he unsubbed while this semester ends, if it is reactivated next month will it have that extra slot?

Thanks,
Sven

[Lord-of-Light]

Ab, only one char from any given account can be ingame at any one time.

So a 6th char slot (or a 7th, or 8th, etc.) doesn't do anything to affect server performance...since the item-related data re: chars that aren't logged in isn't being 'tracked'/ID'ed by the game servers.

On the other hand, if chars had an extra pack slot that extra item-related data would be 'tracked'/ID'ed by a game server (again, if/only if that char is logged in), as would be extra slots/packs in an ingame chest (since that chest is always logged in).

What part about those mechanics do you not understand?

[shidenkai]

I think it makes sense for everyone to have a sixth character slot, old account or new. If this game is ever going to attract a new playerbase, I might not hurt to have the sense of priveleged status of older players reduced a little. The disparity between incoming newbies who have never played before vs. the veterans of the game who have it all figured out and the hottest stuff will be at an all-time high without the quantity of characters difference.

I mean, in-game items that can never be had again are one thing as a reward, but the capability of having an additional character where new folks wouldn't is completely different.

Regardless, I say thanks for the additional slot, and no big deal on the VT server, as I won't be there.

SK of FF

[Soloist]

Originally posted by Ibn
It has to do with Engineering and Operations scheduling. We did look into scheduling the server open on a day other than patch day, but patch day makes the most sense overall.


So why not open the new server during one of the (now weekly) downtimes?


Soloist

[Blood Mage]

i read the post but i havnt been able to find anything on the new server? i take it its still gunna be a carebear server and nothing special about it.. Why dont u make a hardcore server, 1 death and char is gone? That would be awesome! ... oh and new patch looks nice, cant wait for the new char slot, gj turbine!

[FmrSentFlatfoot]

Turbine CAN NOT add an extra 24 slots to a storage chest because it would cause extra lag..........

LOL, yeah just like the loot left on the ground causes lag issue. In the first year of AC, the Devs removed loot on ground for same complaint, but then realized it made absolutely NO difference to the amount of lag experienced. Same holds true today... they've removed loot on ground, yet lag continues to increase, and even as of late is so absurdly sluggish, many log off out of disgust. So loot on ground or no on ground makes no difference to server lag, period.

I highly doubt adding extra slots to a storage chest causes lag. Whether the server saves the loot data in a chest or an extra character, amounts to the same thing. It would be like saying that by my saving all my Emails, my CPU or HD is slowing down because it has to store this data? ROFL. Hogwash.

I'd much rather have 10 extra pack slots put into a storage chest.

Bingo! I'm with you on that score! If I'm in a fellowship or whatever, and I need something that's in my chest, I can just recall, pick it up and return in a second. In most cases though, due to the poor limits of chest capacity, I have to store most stuff on mules... so then I have to break fellowship etc., and get what I need, then return and rejoin. Okay, not a huge ordeal.. but it would make a LOT more sense for convenience sakes to have a chest with 10 more Pack Slots. Imagine a chest that could hold 300 total items? That's FAR FAR more valuable than an extra character slot, IMHO.

Maybe they can do that instead for the "Loyal" ones of us? :D

Not that I really support withholding things from others who also PAY to play. heh

EDIT: Lord-of-Light: as would be extra slots/packs in an ingame chest (since that chest is always logged in).

Might be there, but when "closed", is not being accessed... therefore redundant data until chest is opened. Plus, for the time it would be open, would be infinitessimally small drag on the server, unless AC Game servers are old SX386s. lol

[FmrSentFlatfoot]

Why dont u make a hardcore server, 1 death and char is gone? That would be awesome!

I agree! Why not take that a huge leap further.. I bet you'd love it!

1 death, and your whole account is gone... on ALL servers! Wiped from the character database, as if you never existed! :D

That would be extra Awesome!

[Sass]

I say let us try to work on the wrolds we now have before starting up new ones

[Blood Mage]

i never said that they should do it now while servers are still messed, just that they should think about it.

[Zero_Washu]

As for the new world.

Any chance you will cap experience so as to keep it from turning into just another experience point race? I don't understand how people think that the absence of chains will prevent level run up. The new allegiance system allows focused exploitation of the system to a new maximum.

If you don't make a move soon this new world will be as pointless and overrun with 126+ characters as any other before the end of the summer.

[FmrSentFlatfoot]

Zero:

The new allegiance system allows focused exploitation of the system to a new maximum.

While I agree that the new server will be overrun with 126+s before long, I don't know what this fetish is with people wanting to call something that's put in place by the developers, and therefore "allowed", an exploit.

It's only an exploit IF something is taken advantage of, that the Devs deem as something illegal. Otherwise, it's just part of the game, period.

:rolleyes:

[Zero_Washu]

Originally posted by FmrSentFlatfoot
Zero:

The new allegiance system allows focused exploitation of the system to a new maximum.

While I agree that the new server will be overrun with 126+s before long, I don't know what this fetish is with people wanting to call something that's put in place by the developers, and therefore "allowed", an exploit.




The key here is that just because it is put in place by a developer doesn't make it good.

The gist of my issue is that other games cap character progression for good reason. It prevents the type of behavior we see in AC. Perhaps it is one reason why AC has such low populations versus the other MMORPGs that have been out as long or longer? People don't enjoy a constant rat race? Then again Turbine's rep isn't stellar either.

[FmrSentFlatfoot]

The key here is that just because it is put in place by a developer doesn't make it good.

But since it's not your game, that's not your decision to make.

In terms of the numbers of people who play AC, until Turbine announces it's closing shop, there will always be a good following.

Just within the last 1-2 months, I was starting to believe that we were seeing the end of AC, but just in the past couple of weeks, I have to admit that once again, I was mistaken, mainly because of how Turbine is conducting themselves, letting us all know well in advance, and being up front and honest about the changes coming down the road.

I think we're going to see more people starting to play AC in the near future, as well as a good number returning, who left in the past. Especially those who couldn't buy AC2 etc. in Europe, thanks to moves in process to allow them to purchase CD-Keys again.

I can't fortell the future... but it's looking up compared to how dismal it was starting to look while MS had their grips on it.

[Kala Bon]

Look forward to new adventures with another all new ( and maybe less gimped ) toon ! :-)

Good Hunting

Kala Bon

[Hiero's Back]

this is great, for me anyways i just bought the game and wot have it for a week or two so i wont be late for the new world but i surely hope if im not intime for the may patch i stilll get my 6th slot .. i have an existing account i think, see ive been gone for about 10 months and dont know if it's active but if it is or isnt i would really love that 6th slot but either way this game still rox over -----> ANY <---- game ever made and now with these improvments its 2x better THANKS TURBINE , your the greatest

[Madgic]

Hiya me again.

I think a member of turbine should visit the chat rooms to explain what just happened!!!!

The Fix was Scheduled for 1pm GMT.

No warning messages came out and the worlds stayed up.

So at 1.15pm we all went back out hunting.

At 1.26pm A warning came out and a split second later the whole fellow/server was booted for code of conduct Violations.

On entering the chat room it seemed everyone was booted the same way.

I think Maybe an assurance that when we get back on, there will be corpses to collect, or that the monsters wont have swarmed us, or that perhaps something to assure us that we wont be loosing our DIs/Items, because of what is clearly an Oversight/mistake by yourselves, is in order.

Just a suggestion.

[Yvy]

Originally posted by Jet-eye-nite
I wonder how much other code is bonkers

I agree, thank you for this good idea - so Turbine can open the new word some days befor Patch day :D

Cya all in Verdantine
Yvy

[N333]

Hi

Was there a patch on Monday? I see no new character slot when I log in. I tried logging on Frostfell (main), and Solclaim and neither one had the 6th slot available.

Thanks
N333

[N333]

Never mind, I found the answer to my previous question elsewhere on the boards.

:p

[grimbor]

The fact that the 6th slot will be open to all new players is a good thing for the future life of this game. As it stands now there is very little new blood coming in, but once the expansion hits store shelves, people who never heard of AC will become interested and research the game.

I know personally of several people who refused to even try AC because they read about old school GSAs and hoary mattekar robes being pulled for balance reasons and yet most old school players had those items. They perceived the field was irrevocably balanced against them being competitive in an environment of haves and have nots. In reality, it did not really matter, but the fact is they never considered AC for this reason.

If current players had an extra slot and new players did not, there would be a percentage of people who will read about this and never consider AC for similar reason. In reality, having an extra mule makes little difference in overall potential for power, but the notion of a built in advantage for a certain class of player will still keep some from considering playing.

I have a feeling that once AC in expansion form is back in stores such as Best Buy and reviews are semi favorable, which they should be considering AC despite it's age is still amongst the funnest online game around, a new age will dawn for AC. Perception of a level playing field and possibly another fresh server after the expansion will make this more likely. Personally, if much of the player base goes to Verdantine, I think they should consider integrating some of the old servers much like Shadowbane did to make room for some virgin servers for new players.

More players = more resources for monthy events and it will be more likely Turbine will not try and intentionally kill AC off to drive people into middle earth like MS did when AC2 came out.

Having said this, if posts here and on the vault are any indication, there will be a huge influx into Verdantine as many abandon their old servers. There is a good percentage of people on every server waiting to start fresh on a virgin server with the new vassal/patron exp system and enforced UCM rules right from the start, not to mention all the players who will be returning to the game for the same reason. This will cause massive lag and major over crowding as everyone is trying to level in the same areas. There will likely be hours of waiting line time to even log onto the new server during prime time hours. Again, this is guess work going by my experience on Shadowbane when they did this. If this happens, Turbine really needs to have a plan now, if the tech is feasible, to have a migration system in place to integrate low population servers ASAP to make room for a second and even third new server or there will be major problems that should have been foreseen.

To the Turbine developers, I strongly suggest you put a poll on the log in page to ask players if they plan on making the new server their home. These number should give you a good idea of how many current players you'll have to plan for moving to Verdantine, with consideration that these numbers will be even further inflated by all the inactive accounts ready to be reactivated and little played active accounts ready to jump into the new server as soon as it is open. You have till June to make plans for a massive player influx from all the servers into one new server and claims of unforseen consequences will not hold water.

[astrayl]

Great Idea i've always said there weren't enough characters... Just one question about the world... Are there going to be any special modifiers such as DT had PKs and shadowclaim (I believe that was the name) had the awesome instant lvl 126 thing=) which i want back=P

[Eyaf]

I'm having a good time with her! I didn't think I would have a good time using no 3rd party applications, But I am, two others have made their 6th toon and when we are all on thats what we use. We use only what we loot or can afford to buy and have seen others doing the same. We look kinda funny with our scrounged armor and are loving it. Thanks.

[Steini]

Will there be a random timer on the houses opening like on the other servers, or will all houses be open at the time Verdantine opens?

Just to know if people that play a little less will have a chance to get a house...

[Ibn]

Currently the plan is that all houses will be open the day that VT opens up.

If that changes, we'll let you know ahead of time.

[Steini]

Ok, thx for the info!

[knowone201]

Any chance Verdantine will be opened before June 9? I've been waiting to come back when it was announced early this year. Every day I logon just to see we have 35, 34, 33,... more days be for it's open. This waiting is killing me.

[Korrigan]

Originally posted by Ibn
Currently the plan is that all houses will be open the day that VT opens up.

If that changes, we'll let you know ahead of time.

Mmmhh Ibn, if you allow me, that's not a very good idea ...
Who will get all the villas ? Again, the powergamers. Same for mansions, and to lesser extent for cottages. Those who come back to Verdantine to enjoy the journey and smell the roses will be left far behind as usual, because by the time they reach level 20, all cottages will be taken. And when their monarchy reaches 30, there will be no villa left.

Opening the housing little by little like you did on the other servers at least gave a chance to everybody ...

[Sake]

Originally posted by Korrigan
Mmmhh Ibn, if you allow me, that's not a very good idea ...
Who will get all the villas ? Again, the powergamers. Same for mansions, and to lesser extent for cottages. Those who come back to Verdantine to enjoy the journey and smell the roses will be left far behind as usual, because by the time they reach level 20, all cottages will be taken. And when their monarchy reaches 30, there will be no villa left.

Opening the housing little by little like you did on the other servers at least gave a chance to everybody ...

I thought that was what ebay was for?

[FmrSentFlatfoot]

Who will get all the villas ? Again, the powergamers.

Right! Just like on all the other servers. The non-powergamers got theirs by buying one from a powergamer.

Just like real life. Those who spend the time working so they can afford to buy up real estate, usually wind up being the ones to either keeping for themselves, or selling it to those who don't take the time, can't take the time, or just won't take the time.

I'm on your side to a degree, but it has to be first come, first served. He who gets the money together first is the one who WORKED for it, and some people will work harder than others to achieve their goals, while others are more laid back.

If you have a day job (like most people), then nothing has changed from the other servers... job/family comes first, game comes second. Even if they released the cottages bit by bit, your daily routine won't change, and you'll STILL be in the same boat.

Villas aren't going to disappear THAT fast... the cash is easy to get, the 7 first writs won't be so easy, and the item (depending what it is) might also not be a piece of cake to get. People are going to have to build a fair bit before they can kill the critters that drop what you need.

Solution? Every night after work.. eat supper and get cracking on building your character until you can buy a villa. Once you have it.. then you can go back to your normal non-powergamer routines. :)

Good Luck!

[Stoneheart]

I know that when you buy a cottage/villa it will ask you right away to pay maintenance, but how long of a grace period does one get before you lose the house for non-payment?

Do you have 30 days from the day you first purchased the cottage/villa to pay the maintenance?

Thanks in advance.

[Ravenna]

Originally posted by Zero_Washu
As for the new world.
If you don't make a move soon this new world will be as pointless and overrun with 126+ characters as any other before the end of the summer.

actually i was kind of wondering about this, too.
why make a new server (now, so long before the xp) whithout special rules when one month later it's the same as the others?

i came back to ac when i first heard the news of this new server, hoping it wouldn't be as spoiled as the old ones.

so any chance at all that the new server will be different?

[knopp]

IBN:

Is it possible to have a perma red choice at character creation? Now that PKLite is in the game, White dots have no use for the alters.

If you can be perma white/red at creation, I think you would open up a whole new door to the players of AC. Just split them up on the same server, WITH NO COLOR JUMPING!

You are either white or red from lvl 1 on. You cannot change later.

Thoughts?

[Eyaf]

Woulden't it be totally fair, if we registered for housing? Go to the acronum and register for the type of house you want, get a number or be part of a drawing? (For all houses but mansions and apartments) They should be first come first serve.

Time zones will handicap some players.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

About having a white or red choice for charactor creation. I like the way it is. Go red.. or you can be pink or white.

[CreeperMosswart]

If you're that worried about housing, you need to calm down folks. Granted power gamers will get most of the villas at first, but since when did the game become a lvl fest to get uber housing? Rethink why you're playing. Even on older servers, housing can be bought. It's a matter of patience and determination from my opinion. If you want one, eventually you'll get one.

[Arshoon]

Hey, have we forgotten how the game is so high-level? With everyone starting at 1st again, will Verdantine be reset to original spawns in the countryside and quests? I mean really, I remember when Holt dungeon was populated by drudge skulkers and the like, now they are slaves and servants. I went on a quest for a fire spear on FF which was suppose to have some bandies and the worst was a Banderling Bandit that was 50th that had the spear, and he was suppose to be the worst enemy. When I got there, the Bandit was the lowest level monster there, surrounded by level 80-100 banderlings! What the heck? I was 25th, why can't I do this quest? It's not like that spear you get is worth anything to a character/group that can actually kill those high level monsters.

This issue really needs to be fixed on a server with all 1st levels.

[slaven]

ty for 6th char my guys alrdy a lvl 65 sword guy, but if only i didn't lag i could have him to 100 by this weekend but i lag to much to paly hehe. :)

[Lord-of-Light]

In addition to other things, Turbine's announced policy re: sale of housing on EBay will presumably have at least some not inconsiderable impact on the announced (and unannounced) objectives of some of those recruiting "power-oriented groups" for VT.

At least some (if not most) players will be at least a bit gunshy about risking accounts with well-developed rosters of chars on other servers just to try to realize a quickturnaround 'real dollar' profit off the sale of VT housing.

And although this certainly won't preclude the 'ingame' brokering of housing for 'ingame items', the absence of an externally-based 'market' will presumably serve to make the inventory of the virtual markets somewhat 'deeper', and in turn make such trading at least a bit more rational/fair.

[SegZavier]

This won't stop the out of game market for real cash, but it will move it to less legitimate sources.

[Cryhavoc]

Tim the Enchanter was on Thistledown Server. He made 126 the old fashioned way, killed mobs. I believe he had a small allegiance, but was not set up like the uber xp chains were set up after he made top rank. He left game shortly after becoming a legend.

We had a level 85 in WE before the first month was out. I dont remember his name but he was a mage and had several linked accounts and a chain and was 50 the first week. He maybe hit a hundred within the month but 126 was probably 2 months, if it happend.

[Herb]

THANKS IBN I love my 6th char. slot, I mean all my toons were so overburdened !

(edit to fix IBM to IBN, LOL)

[Eyaf]

I met Tim the Enchanter, thought of him as a friend. He was not easy to chum with as he was a solo hunter most of the time. He sold his account, I did not know this (at the time).

It was a rainy day in Dereth, which should have alerted me to the kind of day I was going to have. The Mage Armor quest was new this patch and I had gathered the items and made 4 keys for the humming crystal, ventured in and gotten the required stones from the dungeons. Now I'm at the Hiromancer Hall. Buffed up and charged in. Didn't get far, face plant near some strange electrical monster you can't even see.

I call for help, a archer friend comes, we die. Another call, and now 3 of us have died. They cut their losses and wish me luck.
I'm standing on the steps of the HH, rain still coming down, when I see one lone dot coming.
I was hoping for a crowd. ITS TIM THE ENCHANTER, yaaaaaa he is already 126!! I run about him like a puppy. Tell him my tale of woe. I tell my friends, "PERMIT ME.. Tim The Enchanter is here," yaaaah!! He has said nothing to me, but he starts buffing, so I start buffing. We are done with the protections, he says one word. "Buffed?" I reply, "I am!" In he charges, past all our corpses. I follow. OOPS UMBRIS... they attack me.. I'm dying... I look to my Hero for help, he is doing the laugh emote. I die, as he laughs. I had just met the new owner of Tim's account.

I did get recovered, and recovered my friends as well. (with some high level help, D R A C O, and friends.) Now I go to the Hiromancer alone, kill everything that moves, wait for a respawn and KILL THAT TOO!! and remember how much fun it was.

[Steve]

Verdantine i dislike the idea of making a completely new world.

There is to Little people Playing AC 1 atm to really make people want to stay on the old school Servers...

With the new server alot of people will go there and Just Play and get bored and Mabye go back to there old Server But this will still take Alot of people from the Old Servers leaving with less people.. So what can we do? jump on the Bandwagon and Go to this new server?

i would Say it would be a Good idea for the new server with everyone wanting to start as a noob again YES!... But i Hate the fact there will be ALOT less people on my Main World... seeing as there is never over 1k of people playing at one time (with buff bots and Trade bots)

and about 200-300 when most of the USA is asleep.. so whats this leave for the new server Less?

Not like this will be of any Help to anyone i was Just bored thought i might Make my point of this to anyone else thinking along the same Lines...

[Jet-eye-nite]

A day late and a pyreal short , I wish I had asked for this before. That being 0 house portals on the new world ,as all its going to be is a race to see who is named in green posts and when 126 is reached . :D

[Focus]

Its a shame there was no way to protect well established names on the new server. Many existing monarchs had their names taken by others and now must seek other ways to keep their allegiances organized for members wishing to check out the new server.

Is selling these names on an auction service a violation of any applicable Code of Conduct?

-Focus

[Morgwyn]

I don't see any announcements about this, but the servers have been crashing a lot on Verdantine. I played all day yesterday and was in on about 6 or 7 of them. Of course, the servers only crash at a bad time, you know, and not when I am just standing around chatting. Just had another crash a few minutes ago. I am not sure I want to play today if the crashing is gonna continue.

[Eyaf]

I tried Verdantine. Got in a 9 people fellow and leveled pretty quick.

Did a few starter quests. I made a mage so if any monsters got to her before she killed them she died a lot. (lol, just like on Thistledown 5 years ago) My Mage on Thistledown NEVER was buffed by another.
ON Verdantine:

I cannot believe that the training dungeon had only one mosswort that dropped the billows. You would think for the first week there would be 6!! You can only pick up one so what's the deal? I saw a line with 50+ people and it stayed that way for a long time. Line breakers were having a great time, Archers had the best chance, mage next so sword or any other melee had to be "first in line" until a archer or mage took pity and said, here open this. Course then every line breaker in the room was clicking on it trying to break in. And the idiots who had their billows or pinser, would kill the next monster and just hold it open until it faded.
(same in the old worlds for the new pincers.)
Makes people pretty annoyed that they didn't choose bow.. or magic.

I saw one red dot and only a few pink ones. The pink ones all had trash mouth.

I ran across 5 buff bots, one casting 2's, one casting 3's, one casting 4's and one casting 5's. Of course the one casting 5's was the biggest monarchy. (of the ones I found) All the bots had a line of at least 3 people, 10 at the one casting 5's. (so how is this different from the other worlds?)

FOCUS, About people getting on first and taking established names. Shame on them, but what did you think? Did you think a new world would change their nature?


My favorite thing about this patch is the banes. LOVE THOSE!!

[Zeds]

Verdantine might be a great thing ... if it can be made to stop disconnecting every couple of hours. it is verdantine , btw the other servers are not doing this , well the ones I play on normally anyway.

[Zendukai]

What is going on with the server being shutdown all the time?
annoying to say the least !!!!

Better not keep happening after next patch.

[Zeds]

after next patch? they better fix this **** ASAP

everytime you get in the middle of a battle you get disconnected , what a ______ load of ****

[FmrSentFlatfoot]

Please Turbine.. please fix the problem of people losing connection on VT.. and fix everything else there too.. give everyone on VT anything they want.... just please do whatever it takes to keep everyone there.....


.... so I can play on my server without all the neverending LAG that all those on VT cause! LOL

If they enjoy LAG.. let them have it... I love this game now again, reminds me of the old days... even closed beta almost.

Everyone on VT... stick it out, I'm sure everything will work out for you! :D

[Seregil]

With all the problems with VT, you should have never opened it this month. There are too many bugs, terrible server connections, no lobbies for DM (gimme a break). Just acknowledging the problems just dont cut it.

[conan]

Love the starting all new but it is hard to play with the random
kick outs.

I am on dsl and have been dropped 4 or 5 time in a few hours time and right now the server is dropping people at rate of 50 an hour the numbers on webpage reflect this.
It is slowly dropping everyone i have not seen this in years of play.